Tire mounting

37 chief · Jul 18, 2023

Anyone see any problem using dish soap for mounting tires? I bought some tire mounting solution a few years ago, and was dried up when I needed it. I just used dish soap. I think one time I used WD 40. Stan

DanielW · Jul 18, 2023

They say dish soap can cause rims to rust, but you certainly wouldn't be the first to use it. I have in the past. Definitely don't use a petroleum product like WD40 as it can degrade the rubber. But don't dismiss a proper bead lube: I bought a tub of bead lube at Napa about 3 years ago. I mount a lot of my own tires, and I still have a lot of it left. It works way better than anything else I've used: the tires glide right on.

db4600 · Jul 18, 2023

Vaseline.

rustred · Jul 18, 2023

no problem at all , they clean oil off ducks with it. geez next time i might try bar soap. it stops fan belt squeeks.

timcasbolt · Jul 18, 2023

I've used dish soap. Seems to work pretty good.

redforlife · Jul 18, 2023

I agree with DanielW. Don't use WD 40. Especially on tires involving a tube.

I have used dish soap. But only when needed, and diluted with water.

Lube makes life easier, but is not critical that you use it every time on every tire like it's a have to thing. In fact, if your doing the old pry bar method to mount and dis-mount, and not using a tire machine, I don't think lube helps all that much anyways. Just my opinion. The old pry bar method to mount, is just going to be a bear cat no matter how you go about it (lube or no lube). Been my experience. Positioning of the portion of the tire bead already over the rim is key more than anything. More than the lube. When doing it by hand with prybars anyways.

On a machine it's more critical. The arm of the machine that has to roll along that tire bead needs some lube to eliminate the friction there (riding against that raw rubber). You don't have that friction type scenerio going on with the ratation of the machine when prying one on with prybars.

Goose · Jul 18, 2023

I've used it, but diluted it to about how you would use it to wash dishes.

UncleTom · Jul 18, 2023

I like 10% Dawn and water. I have used GoJo as well.

Janicholson · Jul 18, 2023

with respect! Tire and tube rubber deteriorate rapidly when exposed to petroleum. Jim

rustred · Jul 18, 2023

agree keep all oils away from tires , big no no.

rustred · Jul 18, 2023

and here is the good stuff! im almost empty.

redtom · Jul 18, 2023

For a quick one off and on I use silicone spray

BarnyardEngineering · Jul 18, 2023

I've changed plenty of tires over the years and never thought much of dish soap. Even straight up it seems to soak in or dry way too quick to be any use.

I got a bucket of tire soap several years ago and I'm halfway through it. Keep the lid tightly sealed and it's just as liquid and viable as it ever was.

The lube has been the difference maker in getting some older tires off the rims. Beat and pried for over an hour on a dry tire, added lube, and it slipped right off.

I've even used PB Blaster to dismount a 20" truck tire off a drop center implement rim. Fought with it dry for at least two hours. Add the Blaster, and it came right off. That tire is mounted right back on the rim with a new tube. No sign of deterioration.

Russ from MN · Jul 18, 2023

I used soapy water on one recently, it worked very well!

David from Kansas · Jul 18, 2023

Like Redtom, I have been using silicone for many years and it works to fix bead leaks. Just break the bead loose, spray on some silicone,
air it up and the bead will seal. Also spray it on the tire bead when dismounting.

timcasbolt · Jul 18, 2023

(quoted from post at 10:51:50 07/18/23)
Anyone see any problem using dish soap for mounting tires? I bought some tire mounting solution a few years ago, and was dried up when I needed it. I just used dish soap. I think one time I used WD 40. Stan

just looked this up: Napa sells a 4 oz. container of tire mounting bead lubricant for $2.29.

Geo-TH,In · Jul 18, 2023

When in college in the 1960 I worked part time at a gas station mounting tires. We used soapy water. Applied it with a rag attached to a coat hanger. Worked fine.

Bob Bancroft · Jul 18, 2023

I keep Dawn dish liquid in the shop for various uses, lubrication being one. I also keep a bottle of Murphy's vegetable oil soap for rubber lubrication. Just installed a gear shift knob for a neighbor, which you never could have pushed on without the Murphy's.
Murphy's tire grease is just the grease form of the liquid.

DoubleR · Jul 18, 2023

I always used dish soap until a couple of years ago. I brought a small pail of Murphy's Tire mounting soap after hearing about on this site. I have some old equipment tires I've had to change out and I feel it worked allot better than the dish soap. I've kept the lid on the bucket, store it in my basement, and it has kept ok for me. I would recommend it for anyone that mounts his own tires.

rusty6 · Jul 18, 2023

I've used a mix of water and dishwashing detergent for tire lube. It works. I've also used anti-freeze when I had nothing else. Definitely need some type of lube for any tire installation. For years I fought with dry installations using levers and then an old Coats tire machine. I bent a few rims and damaged the tires before I got smart enough to use tire lube.

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