kcm.MN
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rick n ohio
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You had to be tough to run something like
that all day
that all day
That photo is puzzling, looks like they are making winrows instead of bundles. There appears to be no bundle catching tines sticking out...that would be the major reason for the dude riding the binder, to collapse the tines loaded with bundles, dropping those bundles in a row of the last round.
Otherwise all the binder rider would need to do is to keep his eye on the crop flowing through, adjust the cutting height maybe...
...puzzling.
At 12 years of age I spent hours on a 1940 SC Case with power take off converted binder while father ran the bundle dropping pedal. Leo
Otherwise all the binder rider would need to do is to keep his eye on the crop flowing through, adjust the cutting height maybe...
...puzzling.
At 12 years of age I spent hours on a 1940 SC Case with power take off converted binder while father ran the bundle dropping pedal. Leo
Mike Groom
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I spent many hours on a Farmall H pulling a binder when I was 12 years old for a $1.00 a day working for our neighbor, couldn't handle his Redman tobacco though.
Looks like this photo was taken at a show
or something. Appears they opened the
field with a swather and are just starting
to cut with the binder. Can't really make
it out clearly, but looks like maybe a
combine in the back ground in the valley
ahead of the tractor and binder. Spent
lots of hours on a 7' Minnesota and then
an 8' pto Mccormick. Shock in the evening
when dew made cutting tough then again in
the morning. Rye, wheat and oats. Rye
beards used get into everything, rub your
arms raw.
or something. Appears they opened the
field with a swather and are just starting
to cut with the binder. Can't really make
it out clearly, but looks like maybe a
combine in the back ground in the valley
ahead of the tractor and binder. Spent
lots of hours on a 7' Minnesota and then
an 8' pto Mccormick. Shock in the evening
when dew made cutting tough then again in
the morning. Rye, wheat and oats. Rye
beards used get into everything, rub your
arms raw.
IMO, that is a staged picture. They are lining up to start a round at a perfectly cut square corner. As the binder has no twine box or bundle receiver mechanism, it is used as a windrower. But judging from the spacing of the existing windrows, that little binder could not place another row at the same spacing. Again, after magnifying the photo and personal judgement...so that dude riding the binder is along for the ride, making reel adjustments or cutting height adjustments. But all the same a beautiful scene stirring my memories....Thank you KCM
flying belgian
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Is that an LA Case? Looks like the picture is reversed.
Timmycornpicker
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- Almost Pennsylvania, New Jersey.
I've seen many videos of British and European binders and they do not have bundle carriers. They just drop
them as the make them. Seems like a lot of extra work to me but that's how they did it.
them as the make them. Seems like a lot of extra work to me but that's how they did it.
Timmycornpicker
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- Almost Pennsylvania, New Jersey.
redforlife
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I agree with cash4toys. You can't judge
this photo by what the field looks like.
Could be at a show where this thing is just
starting, and other equipment opened the
feild. More going on in the background.
Picture gets blurry on my phone if I
enlarge, so I can't make it out.
Tractor paint looks pretty good (as in,
it's been re-painted). Photo is also in
color versus black and white. Both
indications of not a vintage photo from the
40's.
this photo by what the field looks like.
Could be at a show where this thing is just
starting, and other equipment opened the
feild. More going on in the background.
Picture gets blurry on my phone if I
enlarge, so I can't make it out.
Tractor paint looks pretty good (as in,
it's been re-painted). Photo is also in
color versus black and white. Both
indications of not a vintage photo from the
40's.
Goose
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When I was a kid, we had a John Deere binder that had a special 'scissors' type of tongue that bolted to the drawbar of the tractor (Fordson, in our case) and
allowed the unit to make square corners.
Before my sister and I were big enough to ride the binder, our dad had rigged a system of ropes and pulleys that would allow him to drive the tractor from the
binder seat. One day one of the steering ropes broke and the whole thing went in a circle in the field while he jumped off the binder, ran ahead, and climbed on
the tractor.
OSHA inspectors would probably have nightmares about some of the things that were done as routine back then.
allowed the unit to make square corners.
Before my sister and I were big enough to ride the binder, our dad had rigged a system of ropes and pulleys that would allow him to drive the tractor from the
binder seat. One day one of the steering ropes broke and the whole thing went in a circle in the field while he jumped off the binder, ran ahead, and climbed on
the tractor.
OSHA inspectors would probably have nightmares about some of the things that were done as routine back then.
Majorman
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- Scarning, Norfolk, England
Interesting comments. We did let the sheaves out singly from the binder, I never remember any form of catcher, The farm women, children and other workers would follow the binder and set up 'shocks' in the field to let the corn ripen and dry. These were then collected a few days or even weeks later, depending on the weather, taken to the stackyard and built into stacks to await the threshing tackle.
Yes, I have done that as a seven or eight year old and had to put up with barley harns in my clothes and stubble pricked little legs. Later on, pitched sheaves, driven the tractor for collecting the 'shocks'. Was too young to be a 'holdgee boy' on the horse but learnt to shout 'HOLDGEE' and let the tractor clutch up slowly on a Fordson Model N.
And yes, you can cut square corners with a binder. To some people it was a sign of pride in the work. I was taught never to 'slip in' in my early days and always to cut square. The last time I used it was in 2014, with a 1936 Sunshine Stripper Header in Australia. :0)
Yes, I have done that as a seven or eight year old and had to put up with barley harns in my clothes and stubble pricked little legs. Later on, pitched sheaves, driven the tractor for collecting the 'shocks'. Was too young to be a 'holdgee boy' on the horse but learnt to shout 'HOLDGEE' and let the tractor clutch up slowly on a Fordson Model N.
And yes, you can cut square corners with a binder. To some people it was a sign of pride in the work. I was taught never to 'slip in' in my early days and always to cut square. The last time I used it was in 2014, with a 1936 Sunshine Stripper Header in Australia. :0)
Timmycornpicker
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- Location
- Almost Pennsylvania, New Jersey.
Somewhere I have packed away, that exact tractor and rack trailer setup in 1:32 Britains.
Grand dad's Minnesota had the twine box up
front. Our ground drive IH had it on the
rear and the 8'PTO also had it in the
front. I think the European one's were
right hand models, maybe not all, but I
believe right was preferred over there.
For horses there was a steerable truck on
the pole to keep the weight off them. I
still remember Grandpa cutting with 4 up
hitch, but having to rest those horses a
lot. I remember him saying that they used
to 6 when that's all there was. When ever
I cut with him it was with a 41 M, narrow
front, and you never put your fingers
where those spokes in steering wheel could
get you. At home it was a 401 Case narrow
front at first, then changed it to a wide.
I always liked the way a narrow front
handled, nice for square corners. Backing
wagons was where they really shined.
County fair used to have wagon backing
contests, anyone else ever have them?
front. Our ground drive IH had it on the
rear and the 8'PTO also had it in the
front. I think the European one's were
right hand models, maybe not all, but I
believe right was preferred over there.
For horses there was a steerable truck on
the pole to keep the weight off them. I
still remember Grandpa cutting with 4 up
hitch, but having to rest those horses a
lot. I remember him saying that they used
to 6 when that's all there was. When ever
I cut with him it was with a 41 M, narrow
front, and you never put your fingers
where those spokes in steering wheel could
get you. At home it was a 401 Case narrow
front at first, then changed it to a wide.
I always liked the way a narrow front
handled, nice for square corners. Backing
wagons was where they really shined.
County fair used to have wagon backing
contests, anyone else ever have them?
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