push pull PTO shafts - secrets?

2x4 · May 22, 2023

JD MX 10 rotary mower, 10 ft. Has the PTO shaft that needs to be pushed forward while pulling back on the pto joint & turning the shaft all at the same time. Working alone. Had lot of trouble last time & just couldn't get it to go in today. Any tricks? 2 men prolly wouldn't have much trouble but lock up the U-joint to keep it from bending & clamp back the shaft spring lock it would be easier for one man. Any tools to get this done?

Tony in SD · May 22, 2023

First being young makes it a lot easier. Every year it gets harder to get it on. Second, keeping it clean and rust free helps a lot. Light oil that resists dust collection helps too.

Tgrasher · May 22, 2023

Clean and easy telescoping pto shaft, clean tractor shaft, and supporting the pto shaft with blocks of wood so you don't have to carry the weight of it while your struggling to get the dxgqw thing to go on.

Mark-Mi · May 22, 2023

If you have a quick hitch on the three point, use a light ratchet strap to lift the PTO shaft to the exact height you need it. If pull type rotary mower hook ratchet strap around lower lift arms and under PTO shaft to get correct height.

flying belgian · May 22, 2023

Spray everything with wd-40 first and like Tg said block of wood the right height. You can do it.

2x4 · May 22, 2023

the advantage of blocks of wood thing I saw right off!

Bruce from Can. · May 23, 2023

I have at least 4 of those new style and I hate them. The PTO shaft on my round baler is very big, and must weigh 30 lb. , it can be a bit of a challenge but the worst is the snow blower, and heres what I have learned.
Before you try to connect the PTO shaft to the tractor, take a look inside the end of the coupler and push the collar back while watching to see how much the ball bearings move. In cold weather the grease is thick enough to not allow much movement. I clean the inside of the coupler with brake clean, and work the collar until the locking balls move freely, as well as tractors shaft. I will give them a shot of lithium grease from a spray can after everything is working freely. Naturally the other issue can be the shaft itself wont slide freely, and is hard to pull the two telescoping parts apart, again Clem throughly and lubricant after. Doesnt make the shaft any lighter to hold up, but not fighting the sticking mechanism helps a lot.

jhwis · May 23, 2023

Don't feel too bad. I'm fairly young yet and in pretty good shape by most standards and I have a hell of a time myself. Mine is greased to the hilt and it still is a muscle job.

r.w.b. · May 23, 2023

remove front yoke,go to farm store ,buy new push button yoke n toss those push when pulling yokes in your junk pile

Steve in IL · May 23, 2023

Could be like our Rhino SR15 mower. Big heavy CV joint. Four steps First verify that both tractor PTO shaft and mower PTO are clean and lubed a bit. Then verify that mower PTO shaft telescopes freely. Then slide mower PTO shaft slightly onto tractor (Dont worry about locking mechanism yet, just get to slightly engaged. Also dont push it too far in, or you will jamb locking mechanism against the end of the shaft). Then release locking mechanism, and push on the rest of the way, ensuring that lock actually engages. Not easy. Not peasy. But it does work for me.

showcrop · May 23, 2023

They key is that those balls move freely so that you can do it quickly. Grease, or oil and dust mix get dry and make the balls hard to move. Clean it up good with brake clean or pull the front shaft and take to your shop and clean it in your parts cleaner.

Blackhole49 · May 23, 2023

I have 4 (3 Kubota, 1 JD) pull back on the collar while pushing PTO shafts. All are somewhat of a pain, but starting first and lubricated collar are helpful. On none of them, however, is there any twisting required for installation. That is a new one to me.

BarnyardEngineering · May 23, 2023

The PTO shaft should go on a ways before you need to pull the lock back. So, you can get it aligned and started on the tractor before you need to even think about worrying about the lock.

At least instead of trying to juggle four things at once, you're down to two.

BarnyardEngineering · May 23, 2023

(quoted from post at 04:26:58 05/23/23) I have 4 (3 Kubota, 1 JD) pull back on the collar while pushing PTO shafts. All are somewhat of a pain, but starting first and lubricated collar are helpful. On none of them, however, is there any twisting required for installation. That is a new one to me.

So the splines have aligned perfectly every time you've ever hooked up a PTO shaft? You need to go buy some lottery tickets NOW, as you are the luckiest person on earth, LOL...

Richard G. · May 23, 2023

I had to use a big deadblow hammer yesterday to get one of those off my Kubota and Bush Hog mower.
I hate that type.

WNYBill · May 23, 2023

Clean and oiled, get the spline aligned and started (should go on about 3/8 inch. Then twist or pull the collar(depends on the style) and reach back and pull the shaft towards you. My mower has a universal joint in a holder, about 3-4 ft back, I grab it and pull. It's a shame the designers don't ever have to use their designs!

rrlund · May 23, 2023

I've found on my baler, I have to turn the shaft clockwise, pull back on the collar, then quick snap it back counter clockwise and push forward on it, then pull back. It won't come off any other way. Just like most everything I own, they all have quirks and combinations.

I've had to do kinda like Bruce said too. Pull the collar back and there should be a wire clip on them. Take that clip off, pull the collar off, take the balls right out and give everything a real good cleaning.

Texasmark · May 23, 2023

I have the same problem with my baler. I have tried several remedies but this one works the best. I open the gate slightly to take the load off the shaft. I line up the coupler with one hand pushing against the PTO shaft and with a steel rod, rotate the PTO shaft on the baler till the cogs and slots line up and it moves forward on the shaft. Then with one hand lifting the shaft and pushing forward, and the other pulling back on the collar, i wiggle it on. I have bought 2 more tractors so that once the baling season starts, my cab tractor stays connected to the baler. Everything being well oiled really helps.

caterpillar guy · May 23, 2023

The 1219 mower works well with the push pin in one of the hoes then push on let lock on by adjusting the legnth to fit. Then I take the time to grease all the telescoping shaft on them. The baler has a twist ring that will lock up sometimes so it will just slide right on. Other times it is more work. Removing is the bigger problem since the tractor shaft is worn quite a lot and the splines bind on the PTO shaft. the mower I just turn it backwards some and it will come right off. The old push pin yokes are much easier to work with.

old-9 · May 23, 2023

All that sounds good, will try some of these. My main problem is mounting a 4 foot finish mower to a BX Kubota tractor with a 0 size three point hitch, just no room to work. I have been hooking the PTO first then the 3 point. It is small enough to wheel around by hand.( for you safety police) joe

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