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New to the red community: I think my 806 gelled up on me the other day. Started and idled fine for about 10 min until I put some throttle to er then she died. My plan is to replace the filters and put some diesel treatment in there. I m wondering if I will have to bleed the injectors also? Again, I m a newbie with big ol diesels. Anyone ever have a similar issue?
Thanks
 
Google it. There will be a million hits and even a youtube video to watch.
And some of them will be from YT
 
Yes will need bled after change of filters. Once filters are bled you may need to
crack a few injector lines loose at the injectors, then roll engine over until you get
fuel at the injectors. Make sure you have throttle bout half way open or more when
priming.
 
No you don't Gee's , where do you get this ya got to crack injector lines when ya change fuel filters . Not once since 1963 have i ever had to crack and injector line on a D361 when changing fuel filters . When R & Ring the INJECTION PUMP or you do something plum stupid like run it totally out of fuel , Then yes . Change the filters and open the bleeders and let it run out close start tractor and allow to run a little faster then ideal .
 
Where are you at? Was it below 15 degF when this
happened? If not, gelling was not your problem unless
the fuel you are using is really old like more than 5
years old.
 
If it truly gelled you will need to probably get some heat on the tank as well as the lines with a filter change. When you bleed it use an end wrench on the bleeders, not a damn pair of pliers then wonder why you can't get them loose in the future with the corners rounded off. I am kind of doubting it gelled unless the filters have not been changed in forever. or it was a southern tractor and you have not put any local fuel in it to blend the summer /southern fuel with yours.
 
Northern MN it was the first day above 0 in a week or so. However when I changed my filters it didn t look bad so I suspect it s another problem.
 
it was -10F for about two weeks but I suspect you re right. When I changed the filters they looked fine so it might be the pump.
 
I doubt your pump is bad since it started and ran for a bit. Have you checked lines for flow of fuel. Take the line off at the first filter let flow into a jar or some container that is white or clear, and clean so you can see if anything comes out in the way of dirt or other plugging material. Then move to the next place and work to the pump if all is clear and clean then if bled well it should start. IF it has a block heater plug it in. If you have a salmander heater use that with a tar, if not inside or to contain the heat. Look in the tank if it looks like glazed frosting on top it has frozen crystals it needs heat or treating. Look again after you get some heat on it for an hour and see if it looks like liquid fuel again if so start it up. Run for awhile to warm up everything if you have a job for it do that with it. Hauling manure would be a good job to warm it up and get things flowing well with a treatment in it or new fuel mixed with the old. 4
 
I doubt your pump is bad since it started and ran for a bit. Have you checked lines for flow of fuel. Take the line off at the first filter let flow into a jar or some container that is white or clear, and clean so you can see if anything comes out in the way of dirt or other plugging material. Then move to the next place and work to the pump if all is clear and clean then if bled well it should start. IF it has a block heater plug it in. If you have a salmander heater use that with a tar, if not inside or to contain the heat. Look in the tank if it looks like glazed frosting on top it has frozen crystals it needs heat or treating. Look again after you get some heat on it for an hour and see if it looks like liquid fuel again if so start it up. Run for awhile to warm up everything if you have a job for it do that with it. Hauling manure would be a good job to warm it up and get things flowing well with a treatment in it or new fuel mixed with the old.
 
I should give you a proper greeting, sp welcome to YT!
Sorry, yes if you are in MN same place I am you have a
legit gelling concern. Luckily I was in Vegas visiting the
FIL during Christmas when it got so cold. I am a city
dweller so no tractors to worry about. The main reason
I was questioning was due to, during that same time a
lot of the country got unusually cold. I just wanted to
weed out those that may have thought they had a
gelling problem but were really not in a cold enough
area so that would point to other problems. What
catguy said about the crystallization and even clouding
in the fuel are signs of gelling. The thing about it is
unless you pulled the filters when it actually gelled up
you will see it just as you did. Everything will just look
normal. The Tractor Vet knows what he is talking about
on these tractors. Although he likes to add-lib a bit in
his replies, by the way the last word in his response
should be ..idle.. Good luck!
 



Every winter for as long as I can remember, the first really cold that we get there are trucks on the side of the road with hoods up. They are always long haul OTR trucks and they have just come up from the south with their 200 gal of straight, unblended number 2 fuel.
 
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