Ultradog MN
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- Camdenton Missouri
Yes back in the day the only safety device on things was between ones ears but now day it has to be on the piece of equipment since most no longer have common sense
rustred
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so true. nowadays you are to stand and watch it work, keep hands off. makes you wonder how in the heck did all the world come together before power tools, humm maybe brains played a roll. remember the old buzz saw cutting fire wood? never heard of anyone cutting his hand or finger off.
Steve@Advance
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Sounds like the writer is calling the missing throat plate a safety devise.
Though it would be dangerous as is, the plate is more function than safety, and easily replaced!
Though it would be dangerous as is, the plate is more function than safety, and easily replaced!
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
I have read thousands of item descriptions over the past twenty years on GovDeals.
That one is by far the best, honest reason why it is up for sale I have ever read.
Sad that it is exactly what he says too.
You can't make stupid people safe operators, you can only try.
Ten years ago where I worked, they have a crate building crew.
Had a newer table saw with a bunch of factory safety guards.
The workers took most of them off because they were in the way.
Management let them use it that way.
Eventually someone managed to saw their forearm flesh length wise between wrist and elbow.
Rushed him to the hospital ten miles away.
Before he got to the hospital the saw was in the scrap bin and the scrap dealer was called to haul it away within the hour.
This post was edited by DoubleO7 on 08/10/2022 at 05:03 pm.
That one is by far the best, honest reason why it is up for sale I have ever read.
Sad that it is exactly what he says too.
You can't make stupid people safe operators, you can only try.
Ten years ago where I worked, they have a crate building crew.
Had a newer table saw with a bunch of factory safety guards.
The workers took most of them off because they were in the way.
Management let them use it that way.
Eventually someone managed to saw their forearm flesh length wise between wrist and elbow.
Rushed him to the hospital ten miles away.
Before he got to the hospital the saw was in the scrap bin and the scrap dealer was called to haul it away within the hour.
This post was edited by DoubleO7 on 08/10/2022 at 05:03 pm.
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I hope Patrick doesn't lose his job for telling it like it is.
Stephen Newell
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When I was in high school they had an antique industrial bandsaw. It was a 36 saw which had like a heavy hardware cloth covering the wheels. On the left side where the blade comes up it was left open. The shop teacher was worried about the exposed blade so he made a guard out of a couple pieces of wood on each side of the blade to prevent accidents. Within a month one of the students noticed something moving between the boards and stuck his finger inside to see what it was.
wingnuttx
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For me to read that equipment description is very strange because I have followed gov deals dot com for many years and have never read any thing close to what the author wrote. This is what I would describe as a professional auction business. If the items work they said so. Same if it doesnt work. No long stretched out story as seen in this example. Wingnut
As a retired Shop Teacher all 5 schools I worked in had that same saw. If you lower the upper guide to right above the work piece where it belongs there is no exposed blade except in the cut. The upper guide is the guard. There are very few after market guards for a band saw.
So I find the ad rather odd.
So I find the ad rather odd.
I was told by an administrator to never repair any shop equipment. I could replace grinding wheels, lube lift arms etc. but not fix anything because someone will blame you for an accident if it occurs while the student was using it. Because of this, we rotate equipment out as necessary. Our accreditation team inspects our shop for safety issues. Last time they nabbed me on the safety clip for the hook on our overhead chain fall we use to pull engines.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
Scroll down that listing to where it lists Sellers name, click on view sellers other assets
Nearly all of the other assets have similar descriptions.
i.e. Tetanus Bandsaw
This post was edited by DoubleO7 on 08/11/2022 at 06:20 am.
Nearly all of the other assets have similar descriptions.
i.e. Tetanus Bandsaw
This post was edited by DoubleO7 on 08/11/2022 at 06:20 am.
Stephen Newell
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Delta just makes dangerous tools. I used to run a radial arm saw that from time to time the saw would come off the arm while it was running.
BarnyardEngineering
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This is a result of "learning from our mistakes."
What people have learned is that it is not possible to not make mistakes, so rather than accept an occasional accident as the price of admission, they just get rid of the offending machine.
How many here hung off the back of a 1940's era tractor, mere inches from a spinning PTO shaft, riding with Dad for hours/days on end, yet will not allow their grandchild to ride along with them on a modern cab tractor with a buddy seat because it's "too dangerous?"
You're part of the problem.
What people have learned is that it is not possible to not make mistakes, so rather than accept an occasional accident as the price of admission, they just get rid of the offending machine.
How many here hung off the back of a 1940's era tractor, mere inches from a spinning PTO shaft, riding with Dad for hours/days on end, yet will not allow their grandchild to ride along with them on a modern cab tractor with a buddy seat because it's "too dangerous?"
You're part of the problem.
BarnyardEngineering
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- Rochester, NY
That's the problem. If you do this. If you do that. If you do a dozen other things. THEN it is safe. Miss any one thing, and someone loses a finger or worse.
We had a couple kids in high school who had to switch to octal instead of base ten after wood shop mishaps.
You think that's dangerous? you should have seen the panel saws I had the misfortune to have to operate when I did a stint at a factory that cut for the RV industry. One had a two-foot blade with absolutely no guards whatsoever. When that thing spun up you couldn't hear the guy standing next to you. I was more afraid of that blade flying apart than anything. Think of one of those saws that run off a belt from a tractor but spinning much much faster. Another one of those jobs I had no qualms walking away from.
You think that's dangerous? you should have seen the panel saws I had the misfortune to have to operate when I did a stint at a factory that cut for the RV industry. One had a two-foot blade with absolutely no guards whatsoever. When that thing spun up you couldn't hear the guy standing next to you. I was more afraid of that blade flying apart than anything. Think of one of those saws that run off a belt from a tractor but spinning much much faster. Another one of those jobs I had no qualms walking away from.
Rich'sToys
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- Southern MN
The thing is, back in those days, safety, safety, SAFETY was hammered into you non-stop. You really had no excuse if you messed up, because you should have known better. And you certainly knew better next time.
Also, everyone is so "sue-happy" now days. Used to be if you skinned your knee or scraped your knuckle, someone would put a band-aid on it and tell you, "Next time, be a little more careful"! Now the first thing they do is jump in the car and head for the nearest lawyer's office! Because it was obviously someone else's fault!
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