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I'm just curious, if you say mix 15W40 or any lubricant with gasoline or diesel till it is as thin as WD40, will it perform as good as WD40 or better or worse than WD40? It's just curious idea I had. I know there's a lot more to WD40 than it being just a thinned out lubricant. Will it work or will it fail?
 
Acetone mixed half and half with ATF makes a good penetrating oil. I have used hyd/trans in the mixture in place of ATF, and it works too.

Butch
 
Depending on what you are doing, and what you are going to use on, Diesel fuel or Stoddard solvent works pretty good to soak in for a rust deal. If wanting lubrication also then use the diesel fuel. then if you want it to soak in and lubricate some used engine oil with some diesel fuel will work just not soak in as fast. I've tried the candle wax thing for threads and I didn't find that I had good of results.
 
I thought I had a dumb idea, seem like someone somewhere already tried this. Thanks I'll have a go at this too. But I basically just need a replacement for WD40, even if it is just temporary.
 
Acetone does not mix with ATF. I don't care what you say. I've tried numerous times. No matter how much you shake it up, it INSTANTLY separates the moment you stop shaking.

I don't understand how people can think it is so great.
 
HOMEMADE SPRAY (WD 40)
mix 4 parts Kerosene to 4 of Naphtha, then 2 parts engine oil for release fluid or 2 parts ATF if wanting a protective spray .
 
How can that be? ATF and acetone has been
touted for years as the goat engine un-sticker...
particularly on the yt forum
 

Are you looking for a water displacement (WD40)/protective lubricating fluid or a penetrating fluid? I am with the group that says WD40 is not penetrating oil.

Beyond the homemade penetrating fluids there are some "over the counter" ones like Kroil, PB Blaster, CRC Knock-r-Loose, Liquid Wrench, and more sold as penetrating oil/fluid, that work. Like everything, people have varying opinions on how well each works. I believe you are in South Africa, so we don't know what you may have for options along those lines.

I have soaked some heavily rusted frozen telescoping lift arms ends in a pail of vinegar with some salt added. Soaking and pounding on them over several days broke the rust up and freed them.
 
First WD40 is not a lubricant it is a water displacement agent , thus the name Water Displacement(WD) and the 40th formula. So you can't make the formula from distillate products. If you want a lubricant you can make it from distillates such as oil/varsol/kerosene/atf etc etc.People think WD40 is a lubricant, it lasts about two days on a squeeky door hinge , dries out and fails. It is a terrible lubricant, but a good water displacer. I've used it to spray distributor caps and wires and it dries them out instantly thats what its for !
 
Yes, I am in South Africa and here we have WD40, Q20 and I think one or two other brands I'm not familiar with. I'm just experimenting and see what works and what doesn't. Both WD40 and Q20 are uber expensive, so if I can mix something that will be cheaper and works just as well then why not. It's just a curious idea I had, didn't thins any one else would have thought of this before.
 
Well we use either WD40 or Q20 to loosen nuts and bolts that are a little stubborn. So if I try any of the other ideas, I'll have better success at loosening bolts and nut, then with either WD40 or Q20?
 
Looks like Q20 makes penetrating oil called Q10.

Result with anything varies from case to case. No guarantee one is a cute all of will work better everytime. JMHO

This post was edited by Jim.ME on 07/06/2022 at 05:31 am.
 
So, one penetrating and the other is displacement. A lot of the guy in the workshop thinks it's all the same thing, this is gonna be a fun conversation, or attempt at explaining the difference between the two.
 
I use Brake Fluid a lot. It will cut rust. I let set if really bad. Also use it just to lubricate just don't get on paint. Have you ever seen a brake line rust???
 
(quoted from post at 08:50:37 07/06/22) I use Brake Fluid a lot. It will cut rust. I let set if really bad. Also use it just to lubricate just don't get on paint. Have you ever seen a brake line rust???
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"Have you ever seen a brake line rust???"

Yes, regularly have to replace brake lines/fittings because of rust. Brake fluid doesn't do a thing for the fitting threads or tube inside the fitting nut, if it isn't leaking out. So that is a problem in either case.
 
2 cycle oil? Is that the same as two stoke oil or am I mistaken? Sorry if I sound dumb but some of the naming conventions used for some products just go right over my head.
 
Reading from the WD40 can:.... lubricates, cleans, protects, penetrates, displaces moisture. I don't consider it serious penetrating fluid though. I'll buy whatever is available locally. Seafoam makes a good one. Liquid wrench was another brand used here too. I've used acetone/atf mix with no great success on a stuck flathead V8 engine.
 
ha ha, ya by one person. i have tryed to mix them also. they will not mix . if its oily and put on threads pretty much any thing will work . the only thing is spray stuff is a lot handier. i always lube rusty threads when tearing stuff apart. i have had nuts get so hot from removing them they burn your fingers.
 
I love the acetone/auto trans fluid mix. Really works well, but if it's really stuck patience is needed and reapplication as the acetone evaps very quickly from the mix. Flatmotor V-8s are usually stuck in the valve guide area, 16 iron guides holding 16 steel valves, making it difficult to free up as you can only access the bottom of the guides and you can't rotate the engine. Valve train usually has to be destroyed to get the guides out. Top ring stuck, that bank has to be vertical to get the solvent evenly across the top of the piston, one bank at a time. My 2 bits. Larry
 
(quoted from post at 11:50:37 07/06/22) I use Brake Fluid a lot. It will cut rust. I let set if really bad. Also use it just to lubricate just don't get on paint. [b:e4afefc5b2]Have you ever seen a brake line rust???[/b:e4afefc5b2]
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es. Literally, my whole life. Over and over and over again. Brake fluid (Dot 3) absorbs water.
 
X2 on tha, Michael... WD40 has very small molecules, it penetrates, but not a good lubricant. I might use it on a dry tight hindge but then use a real oil...
 
I was a truck mechanic for 40 yrs, and have seen and tried a lot of things, manufactured and homemade brew, to unstick rusted/frozen nuts and bolts. My go to is a cutting torch-NOTHING works as good. Not even close. Or as quick. All I use spray can stuff for is to lube things that need lubed. If I reassemble something that might rust, I'll use Never seize. Mark.
 
(quoted from post at 05:50:37 07/06/22) I use Brake Fluid a lot. It will cut rust. I let set if really bad. Also use it just to lubricate just don't get on paint. Have you ever seen a brake line rust???
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Yes, it has been a serious safety issue in the United States for decades. When cars get about 10 years old, especially in areas where they apply salt to the roads to melt snow and ice, the brake lines rust out and leave you with no brakes.
 
WD40 the WD stands for water displacement and the 40 stands for how many times they tried before they came up with what they wanted it to do so NO mixing a home brew is not likely to work well
 
I think gas in the crankcase could go boom. Even if you thinned it with something like kerosene you wouldn't know the ratio.
 

The question asked was: "Have you ever seen a brake line rust???" My answer to that question is still yes. And since at least some brake fluids will absorb water and condensation occurs, I have seen rusting inside brake components with fluid in them.
 
Any chance you used nail polish remover instead of 100% acetone? Nail polish remover has water and glycerin etc in it. Rarely seem to see straight acetone outside of a fiberglass shop these days.
 
Now we can't exactly drag a cutting torch into a field where we need to swap out a pivot wheel. No, we'll stick with the penetrating oils. But we do use the torch on other bolts & nuts where we really have no other choice.
 
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