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Steve A W
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- Northwest Indiana
That's better than the North West corner of Indiana.
Around here it seems that houses are growing in fields.
Around here it seems that houses are growing in fields.
whereswaldo
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If it was Iowa, he'd be decreasing the 'improved' valuation of his property, thereby reducing his property taxes. One reason Iowa has so few railroads when at one time we had the MOST trackage-never more than 7 miles from track-is the Right of Way is considered 'improved' when the tracks are in place, no matter how deteriorated.
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
Up at Wintergreen a mountain/ski resort area a few years ago I got some treated deck lumber from a $250,000 house they were tearing down to build a 1 million$ plus house.
Northvale PA
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Here in SE PA we have tons of new houses. Many old ones torn down because they are more difficult to rent or sell without upgrades and few people want to deal with that aspect of an old house. Unless it is well built and architecturally attractive, it might just disappear. My own is old and plain enough and needs enough TLC to be exactly in that category. Sad but true. The one consolation is the average new house quality is actually not much better. I am currently replacing 120 year old wood siding with top quality vinyl. But no way that will last even half as long as the wood did. On the other hand, the original bricks in the chimneys are crumbling. The average mortar and bricks of that era were garbage. Too bad my house sits on top of it!!!!
johnofnewhaven
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People leaving Chicago. That's why you're seeing that Northwest Indiana.
redforlife
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That's actually not a bad idea!!
Bruce from Can.
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- Woodville, Ontario, Canada
If a house cant be severed off the farm and sold, many farmers knock down houses here too. Government rent control regulations make renting a house out a nightmare. You cant get evictions done sometimes for over a year if the tenant stops paying rent. Tenants that will rent older farm houses in rural areas tend to not be the best quality of citizens. Doing drugs, break ins , dragging junk home and leaving it behind when they move on, often destroying the house while they are there No justice for landlords. So houses get torn down to avoid trouble.
redforlife
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This is happening in my area. If a farm is sold in one tract including the house, and the house is just average or less, it's fate is usually sealed. It'll be coming down. Along with every tree, out building, fence post, and the mail box. 2 months after being sold, you can drive by there, and it'll look like a house never was ever even there. Just a field of corn or soybeans planted clear to the edge of the road if there is no roadside ditch. I swear, some would even plant road side ditches, if thier planters could somehow do it.
About the only chance an older house has got in my area, is to be sold as a house and separate tract only including the yard and out buildings, when the farm is sold.
95 percent of the farms that are sold in my area, are bought by large farmers for add on acres, or investors. These type people, are not needing a place to live, or buying the property for that.
This could vary drastically by location. Night and day difference, between middle of nowhere, and commuting distance of large city. I'm not within commuting distance of large city. 90 thousand dollar house in the city, would be a 15 thousand dollar house here. If same house here is sitting on 3 acres of good crop land, then those three acres of farm ground are worth more as farm ground than the 15k house.
About the only chance an older house has got in my area, is to be sold as a house and separate tract only including the yard and out buildings, when the farm is sold.
95 percent of the farms that are sold in my area, are bought by large farmers for add on acres, or investors. These type people, are not needing a place to live, or buying the property for that.
This could vary drastically by location. Night and day difference, between middle of nowhere, and commuting distance of large city. I'm not within commuting distance of large city. 90 thousand dollar house in the city, would be a 15 thousand dollar house here. If same house here is sitting on 3 acres of good crop land, then those three acres of farm ground are worth more as farm ground than the 15k house.
Bruce from Can.
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- Woodville, Ontario, Canada
You have made me curious as to where you live. You say a 99 thousand dollar house in the city, would be a 15 thousand dollar house where you live. A unserviced one acre house lot in my area. 90-100 miles to Toronto sells for 200 Grand. You cant buy a reasonable house for $500,000.00 on a septic and well. Only place I could go to buy a home at the prices you are talking, is back in time. Probably back into the mid 1970s
A local farmer here increased his acerage as well.....a 98 acre farm with an older but liveable 1 1/2 story house on it, all one field level good soil, half decent drive shed just sold by sealed tender for....I can't believe it either....27000 per workable acre....might just cause a shortage of 'for sale' signs .....
Ben
Ben
RCP
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- Grove City Pa
Why do people tear down a building and have to pay for disposal instead doing a controlled burn of the house and push the remains into the old foundation and backfill over top?
I can understand in a congested area burning might be a safety issue, but out in the open I do not see a problem.
Several years ago I wanted to burn an old outbuilding and asked the local fire department if they wanted to use it for training, they declined. I waited for a couple of inches of snow and torched it myself. No one seemed to care and no authorities showed up to chastise me.
I can understand in a congested area burning might be a safety issue, but out in the open I do not see a problem.
Several years ago I wanted to burn an old outbuilding and asked the local fire department if they wanted to use it for training, they declined. I waited for a couple of inches of snow and torched it myself. No one seemed to care and no authorities showed up to chastise me.
OP
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Geo-TH,In
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This house would be worth 3x more in Indy.
In the Florida villages it would be 4x more and they are slab, concrete blocks covered with stucco.
The Country home is small and worth about 50-60% the value of my brick home. The farmer who is demolishing homes, his grandpa built this home for his hired help. It was purchased before the dad took over farming and now his son runs the farming and returning yards to farmland..
Fawteen
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- Downeast Maine
I talked to the local Fire Chief a while back and the Maine DEP (Department of Environmental Protection) has outlawed burning structures for training.
I think that's a mistake, personally. Burns in a training facility are okay, but there's nothing more real than an actual structure.
And yes, I've been in several structure fires under training conditions, as well as a couple in a Fire Training Facility.
I think that's a mistake, personally. Burns in a training facility are okay, but there's nothing more real than an actual structure.
And yes, I've been in several structure fires under training conditions, as well as a couple in a Fire Training Facility.
Makes sense to me. The price of crop land it squares up the field adds a few acres, well worth it. Lowers taxes.
Cant rent out rural house without 1000 problems, drugs no pay damage thieves is about all you get.
Best option as I can see.
Now, I would prefer 160 acre farms and thriving small farms with good neighbors living there!
But, that isnt the current reality.
Paul
Paul
Cant rent out rural house without 1000 problems, drugs no pay damage thieves is about all you get.
Best option as I can see.
Now, I would prefer 160 acre farms and thriving small farms with good neighbors living there!
But, that isnt the current reality.
Paul
Paul
redforlife
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I'm a 2 1/2 hour drive from ANYPLACE that would even resemble the size of Toronto.
Like I said, things can be drastically different according to where you are at.
Lower end homes here, are more likely to be demolished to keep bad people away. Don't cost as much to do it either, with a lower market for low end housing. If you buy a half a million dollar neighboring farm, why not. Not worth ending up with bad neighbors a mile down the road, for just a few dollars on the house. Might as well doze her down. Farm the ground.
Like I said, things can be drastically different according to where you are at.
Lower end homes here, are more likely to be demolished to keep bad people away. Don't cost as much to do it either, with a lower market for low end housing. If you buy a half a million dollar neighboring farm, why not. Not worth ending up with bad neighbors a mile down the road, for just a few dollars on the house. Might as well doze her down. Farm the ground.
Naylorbros
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9 acre field a mile of so from me just sold for $550,000 an acre.
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Geo-TH,In
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Why do people tear down a building and have to pay for disposal instead doing a controlled burn of the house and push the remains into the old foundation and backfill over top?
In my county you have to get a demolition permit and permit clearly says you can't burn it..
Do you see the blue 40 yard dumpster in one of the pics??
They can burn the trees..
In my county you have to get a demolition permit and permit clearly says you can't burn it..
Do you see the blue 40 yard dumpster in one of the pics??
They can burn the trees..
Never heard of that in my area of Nebraska. Buddy just buried his house, foundation, and anything the fire didn't get in the basement and just covered it up. City burned two out last year, old enough to have abestos, one I went through and grabbed what scrap iron I could get after the fire and owner just hauled foundation and ashes to his junk hole on his acreage.
A lot of people don't know it but that is the law (NDEE). I'm on local volunteer Fire Dept. and we gave permission to burn in a hole. It was next to major highway and someone turned it in. Owner had to uncover the buried ashes and haul them 60 miles to a licensed land fill. You can burn and bury brush but not buildings. A farmer can bury the buildings on the property if they aren't burnt.
Thats about it and I share your dreams of yesteryear and small thriving family farms. I guess its not much different than thinking of full service gas stations where theyd wash your windows and check your oil and little shops that had a bell on the door when you opened it with every little nicknack and your favourite candy. I see some farm houses here offered as perks for employees and their families to live in. It depends how it goes. Every little 40 ac field near the road was the front half of an 80ac farm in these parts that once had a small house a couple barns and a pasture. Now theyre mostly all just a big field with no more obstacles. Theres over double the population to feed worldwide on less available acres than less than a century ago. Many like to finger point and blame BTOs for everything from climate change to being greedy putting family farms under. When little Johnny doesnt want to farm or the farm just cant survive its the BTOs that buy up the smaller farms and put food on most of our tables as cheap as it can be done as most of us want affordable food.
Centerplate
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- Green County Wi
I tore my old log cabin down because it was kinda rough. I had to build a new one to keep the wife happy.
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