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grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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Drug home a new issue for us yesterday. Our preacher bought this MF 65. Last ran in '04. Was parked due to a death in the family. Surprised that the fuel (about 4 inches of it) still smells like diesel and has a nice red tint. With no points to file or spark plugs to remove and lube cylinders, I don't know where to start? Help a gas burner guy out?
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Lucky the motor is free. And it has been in a barn the whole time. Tractor data shows 2 diesel engines available,how do I know which one we have?

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Drain out all the fluids ,replace
Fresh red dye fuel with some fuel conditioner.
Change battery to correct design .
Thighen all the bolts
Greased
Should go fine for ya !
 
That tractor has the later Perkins AD4.203 direct injection engine. Tractor is one of the late MF 65s as it has the deep dish steering wheel and suspension seat, and forward pivot clutch pedal. My dad had one just like it years ago. If the engine is good, that is one of the best fuel sipping, good starting cold diesels built. I can still get pump and injector parts as I still see them come in for repair once in awhile. Does the tractor have the Multi-Power twelve speed option, or is it the base six speed model? The MP option has a small shift on the go lever on the lower dash right side.
 
That is a great engine in that tractor . As said below, change the fluids and get fresh diesel. Check that the pre-heaters work and try and avoid using ether to start it. Those engines will break piston ring grooves, pistons and bend connecting rods if ether is used for any length of time.

If it has Multi Power be careful as there is no engine braking in Low. Please do not ask how I found that out when working on a hill.

This post was edited by Majorman on 04/21/2022 at 05:01 am.
 
I would just check the fluids for level and also see what they look like. If they seemed good stick a battery in it and see if it cranks up. no sense putting brand new oil in it if it does not even run. And if you mess around with the fuel good chance you will get air in it and cause more issues.
 
Like any other unknown history tractor, check for water in the engine oil and gear cases, and top up the fluids. Check everything over for nests and rodent damage.

Be sure there is fuel in the tank and available to the injector pump. Be familiar with the starting procedure, preheat, glow plugs, etc. Use a known good, properly sized battery, installed and good connections, not jumper cables. You don't want to marathon crank it!

But above all, a diesel that has been stored, there is a possibility the governor could be stuck resulting in a runaway. Have a plan to block the air with a board or flat metal. Not a rag or your hand! Be ready to act fast, it can be a very dangerous situation!
 
(quoted from post at 07:02:18 04/21/22) I would just check the fluids for level and also see what they look like. If they seemed good stick a battery in it and see if it cranks up. no sense putting brand new oil in it if it does not even run. And if you mess around with the fuel good chance you will get air in it and cause more issues.
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Lots of good advice here! If it was mine, I would get it all ready to start, make sure it turns over with the starter, but then I would tow start it. You can tow it fast enough to get some good oil pressure, and lube the lower end before it fires off. Those bearings are all pretty dry after sitting that long.
 
Grandpa a 65 is a very strong and useful tractor for its size. My brother had one. Like all said below check all the fluids and look for water. Changing the fuel filter or filters, can't remember if it has one or two, would be good. Pull it to start and let oil be pumped through the engine before giving it fuel. It sure looks nice!
 
I have been told that you can't pull start a Massey Ferguson with a Multi Power transmission. For the following reasons :
Due to the free-wheel mechanism you can't start it in 'low'. If you shift to 'high' MP you will not generate enough oil pressure to lock the hydraulic clutch to turn the engine when towing.
Now add to it, the Neutral Safety Start Switch, shouldn't allow it to start if it isn't in neutral. Yes, I know you could by pass the switch, but the question remains, can it be pull started ???
 
Just check levels are up. Stick a good battery in it not a car battery unless you parallel them. Crank it over. Probably will start. Fooling around with changing oils and such, will just enhance any issues it might have, and cause more problems with getting them sorted out. Diesel fuel is good for many years with no problems and filter will work for a test start. Once running then you can change filters and all then.
 
I think the neutral safety switch is not an issue. In a pull start the starter isnt involved, so has no bearing on it.
 
From experience: I would spin over with the starter somehow, jumper batteries or something.
If you get smoke from the stack, great!!
If not, you may have to have the injector pump worked on.
Something about a metering valve.
I have a Ford 800 something that needs the pump pulled.
Another project!!!
 
Couple years ago I was hired to get a TD15 IH tracker loader back up and running. It had been parked for at least 10 years. Had to fix a couple radiator hoses and replace the starter solenoid. I tried to turn the engine over by hand and it would spin so got batteries for it and tried to start it. It took a shot of starter fluid to get it going but it was also in Jan or Feb so not all that warm out. Once I had it running I then got hired to use it to move some other stuff the guy had. I'd if it where me would check things as I did then try to see if it would start. Old fuel by the way and it ran just fine
 
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