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caterpillar guy
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Sounds like you're between a rock and a hard place. Never heard of plating a tractor in the US. See it often in Europe and other countries. What do they say is the reason for needing it plated. If for an insurance thing just have the insurance certificate and show them ahead of time by email,fax or what have you. Other wise I can't help much.
Every state has their own laws on this, so you need to give the state.
As far as Im aware every implement of husbandry is exempt from license plates in every state if you use it for ag purposes.
You need to talk to the right persons that understand these rules and will either realize the tractor doesnt really need a plate; or the exemption doesnt apply and you
need to get a plate for the machine.
The two offices are run by people used to checking boxes and not really thinking. You need to find someone who is thinking in govt.
That sounds bad, but it is what it is.
Paul
As far as Im aware every implement of husbandry is exempt from license plates in every state if you use it for ag purposes.
You need to talk to the right persons that understand these rules and will either realize the tractor doesnt really need a plate; or the exemption doesnt apply and you
need to get a plate for the machine.
The two offices are run by people used to checking boxes and not really thinking. You need to find someone who is thinking in govt.
That sounds bad, but it is what it is.
Paul
The state is Nebraska and that's exactly what's happening. I've spoken to the state DMV and told them it's not for agricultural use. I've spoken to the game and parks head of law enforcement and told them it's exempt. I'm just not getting anywhere. I can drive this thing down state highways but can't use it to put a boat in the water. It doesn't make sense maybe I will call them again.
It sounds like problem might be that you also plan to use the tractor to pull a boat on public roads and through public parks before launching the boat inside the park. Could you simply use a car or pickup with the right trailer hitch and license plates to to do the same thing legally?
Be careful what you ask for, right now the blanket statement that all farm equipment is exempt from licensing is pretty clear. By clouding that designation you could set a precedent that all farm equipment must be registered and have license plates to travel on Nebraska roads, LOL.
Be careful what you ask for, right now the blanket statement that all farm equipment is exempt from licensing is pretty clear. By clouding that designation you could set a precedent that all farm equipment must be registered and have license plates to travel on Nebraska roads, LOL.
RCP
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- Location
- Grove City Pa
Can you get an offroad plate in Nebraska? In Pennyslvania we have plates issued by the DNR, these
plates allow vehicles to be driven on specified roads in addition to offroad trails, the kicker in
Pa is the vehicle has to have a title to get a plate from the DNR, I do not know how Nebraska does
offroad vehicles.
plates allow vehicles to be driven on specified roads in addition to offroad trails, the kicker in
Pa is the vehicle has to have a title to get a plate from the DNR, I do not know how Nebraska does
offroad vehicles.
Goose
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Not in Nebraska.
As I mentioned in another thread, I once was ticketed by a NDOT officer for towing a stock car on a trailer with Farm plates on the pickup. Nebraska law considers a race car an income producing piece of equipment, and to tow it on a public road you need Commercial plates on the tow vehicle.
It cost me $18 to find that out. When I mentioned it to a Nebraska State Trooper I knew he said, 'That's the law, no getting around it. I personally think a verbal warning is appropriate the first time'.
As I mentioned in another thread, I once was ticketed by a NDOT officer for towing a stock car on a trailer with Farm plates on the pickup. Nebraska law considers a race car an income producing piece of equipment, and to tow it on a public road you need Commercial plates on the tow vehicle.
It cost me $18 to find that out. When I mentioned it to a Nebraska State Trooper I knew he said, 'That's the law, no getting around it. I personally think a verbal warning is appropriate the first time'.
It is called DCNR in PA and they title and register offroad vehicles such as ATVs and Snowmobiles, They do NOT title or register tractors or other offroad vehicles like dirtbikes. Dirtbikes have regular titles through PennDOT and cannot be registered because they are for offroad use only.
Tony in SD
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In my years of working across the nation, I have found that, law enforcement, especially Park Rangers, in many states interpret the laws in an unusual way sometimes. Many times the law will prohibit
something but there are exceptions that are overlooked by a particular officer that would otherwise make your actions legal. If you are getting conflicting interpretations by multiple law enforcement
agencies, then I would pose this question to the Attorney General of the state involved. Get his opinion in writing. Good luck.
something but there are exceptions that are overlooked by a particular officer that would otherwise make your actions legal. If you are getting conflicting interpretations by multiple law enforcement
agencies, then I would pose this question to the Attorney General of the state involved. Get his opinion in writing. Good luck.
BarnyardEngineering
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- Location
- Rochester, NY
They won't take his money.
His problem is twofold:
1. The park will not allow the tractor in without a license plate.
2. The state will not issue a license plate for a tractor.
BarnyardEngineering
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- Location
- Rochester, NY
SV this isn't a case of saying, "Eff the law, I do what I want!"
Since this is a state park, there is a gate and a guard. The guard at the gate will not let you pass without taking down your license plate. If the tractor does not have a license plate, they will not let it in.
Are you suggesting he just let out the clutch, crash the gate, and make a run for the boat dock? They'll just let him go, because "Eff the law, I do what I want?"
Paul Janke
Member
In Montana there are SM plates which is special mobile. Those plates are for non ag and non load hauling equipment such as well drilling rigs, concrete pump
units, loaders, and so on. It is illegal to use as just transportation and not to carry passengers except operating crew. You pay taxes but not GVW. The
equipment does not need to have a title.
units, loaders, and so on. It is illegal to use as just transportation and not to carry passengers except operating crew. You pay taxes but not GVW. The
equipment does not need to have a title.
rvirgil_KS
Well-known Member
SMV triangle sign??
Keith True
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We have tractor plates in N.H.and have had for at least 72 years.I have some 1950 tractor plates.I never used to bother too much with them,but years ago I was finally warned,register them or pay the fine.It costs $6.to register a tractor here.
David from Kansas
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Found out several years ago that Nebrasky has some funny laws. Was attending a farm auction where they were selling several hay
trailers, you know the four wheel type with a back board. Seeing that they all had Nebrestky license plates on them I asked a
local about it. He told me that was the law in NE, if it goes down a public road behind a truck it has to have a license plate.
I have worried since then that Kansas would get wind of it and start doing that here, but so far we are OK. However, my son was
hauling some hay bales on my goose neck flat bed and was stopped by the HP and given a warning for not having mirrors wide enough
to see behind the load and having no license plate. His statement was that if a trailer had the ability to be used for multiple
purposes, like my flat bed, it had to have a license plate if GVW was over xxxx pounds. I have had it licensed since. But,
livestock trailers still apparently don't have to be licensed, as I see about 50% of the trailers at the local livestock sale barn
do not have license plates. Trailers are something you will get a different opinion on from every highway cop, here in Kansas.
Apparently the laws are not very clear.
trailers, you know the four wheel type with a back board. Seeing that they all had Nebrestky license plates on them I asked a
local about it. He told me that was the law in NE, if it goes down a public road behind a truck it has to have a license plate.
I have worried since then that Kansas would get wind of it and start doing that here, but so far we are OK. However, my son was
hauling some hay bales on my goose neck flat bed and was stopped by the HP and given a warning for not having mirrors wide enough
to see behind the load and having no license plate. His statement was that if a trailer had the ability to be used for multiple
purposes, like my flat bed, it had to have a license plate if GVW was over xxxx pounds. I have had it licensed since. But,
livestock trailers still apparently don't have to be licensed, as I see about 50% of the trailers at the local livestock sale barn
do not have license plates. Trailers are something you will get a different opinion on from every highway cop, here in Kansas.
Apparently the laws are not very clear.
I realize this but the tractor is smaller easier to see with and operate backing around other idiots. Why in the world do they want another 7000lb pickup running around their grounds, when a tractor that weighs less then 3000 lbs and has a top speed of 18mph will do the job just fine. Nobody in any position of authority can explain this to me.
John in Mich
Well-known Member
- Location
- Ypsilanti, Michigan
Call it your golf cart. Hang a golf bag on the fender. No plate required.
stevieb49829
Well-known Member
- Location
- Spirit Lake, Idaho
So did they give a reason that it had to be a licensed vehicle? Were people trespassing with unlicensed ATV's and SxS's? Does the state license off-road's that are street legal? Is your tractor street legal? If it needs a VIN to be licensed, why can't you stamp a VIN on it. There are home-made vehicles licensed in almost all states. They are called hot rods. See where this is going.......?
Phil-mar Farms
Member
Get it in writing from the park headquarters then youll have
something to show them at the gate
something to show them at the gate
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