I was researching tractors today and came upon an MM g-1355. I dont know much about molines, nor whites, but the engine looked very similar to that of a 2-150. I know the mm was before the white but theyre both the 9.6L. And the driver station looks very similar too. I kinda want a g-1355 now haha! But I know whites 9.6l in the 150 had problems. Is the mm 9.6 different or better? Is it a better drivetrain than the 150 does anybody know?
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Tramway Guy
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Same basic engine. Same basic drivetrain. The 2-150 would have had later engine updates than the G1355.
The only thing MM is the engine and probably front end.
If not correct, others will chime in.
The only thing MM is the engine and probably front end.
If not correct, others will chime in.
They were a hybrid. They used a Moline 585 engine and an Oliver rear end. The rear end was the same as an Oliver 2255. The gearing was different was about all. The 2255 used a Cat V8 and the 1355 and 2-150 used the slow running MM engine. They were also sold as an Oliver G1355, not to be confused with the Fiat built Oliver 1355. The White 2-135 and 2-155 were a whole new design and used a 478 Hercules similar to the Oliver 2050 and 2150.
Bob Harvey
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WoW ! How do you guys keep all these stats ? Probly don't drink !
The 585 with the external engine oil pumps were OK. It's been said that boring out the oil passage in the connecting rods among other tricks did a lot to cure what ailed the engine in general. The local White dealer who handled MM back in the day said NOT to overspeed the engine with the maximum operating engine RPM at 1750. 585 CI may seem like a lot of power but to keep them running healthy it was not good to squeeze them past 150 PTO HP. Parts are fairly scarce anymore and from what I have been told the 585 does not have much in common with the more widely produced 504. Had a fair amount of exposure with the 585 with it being mostly bad. Don't know if what I learned from net and non-net sources over the years would have made a difference with my dealings with that engine.
G-1355's were rated 142 hp, enough to pull a 6 bottom plow. Some data sheets listed their showroom weight at 16,000 -17,000 lbs.. They had massive cast iron weights on the inside rear wheels. We heard of problems with their original oil pumps. The ones retro-fitted with external oil pumps did not seem to have problems. They were only made from 1972 -1974. The 1355 might have been the heaviest tractor in it's hp class at that time. They would have been sold painted green for Oliver, yellow for M M, red for White or Canadian market. Don't think much more than 1000 - 1400 were manufactured but production figures hard to come by. The rear ends/transmissions on these tractors had a reputation of being bullet proof in our area.
Also heard parts almost impossible to find for these tractors.
Also heard parts almost impossible to find for these tractors.
J.Wondergem
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SV, sometimes you really crack me up. :roll: LOL.
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