Problems with my new 1800

Bigeasy16 · Mar 3, 2022

Well I purchased an Ollie 1800 from a family friend. Love the tractor but. Its got sloppy steering and I did some research and apparently the steering units are crap and parts aint available no more I guess. So if anybody got ideas what to do let me know. I Dunno anything bout Olivers. And after I bought it, dug deeper and found the Waukesha engines were no good either. But it was bout the 1850s and it was a different engine. So, if anybodys got these and has experience with em, Id love if youd let me know what I got into haha
-Ben

Charlie M · Mar 3, 2022

In the 60's we had a Cockshutt 50 that kept going through front wheel bearings. Dad finally bought an IH bearing and never had a problem again. I've heard Oliver front ends were a weak spot and I've heard Oliver had a better front end for tractors with loaders. You need to find out what parts are actually worn in yours. You can find bushings and bearings and tie rod ends, maybe a call to a machine shop and fix what is wrong - you just can't do it by using Oliver part numbers.

Mike(NEOhio) · Mar 3, 2022

Post on the Oliver and Cockshutt forum. You'll get lots of help.

Bob M · Mar 3, 2022

Properly maintained and not abused, the Waukesha engines give good service. A friend owns this 1800 - has over 7,500 hours and still runs fine.

My son has an 1850 - same Wauk engine as the 1800 except stroked for more cubic inches/power. It's still going strong with over 9,000 hours on the tach.

The downside: The Wauk gassers are THIRSTY - especially when worked hard!

Can help with the power steering - have never had steering issues with either tractor.

300jk · Mar 3, 2022

Looks like an 1800 series A checkerboard gas. I dont think the steering box is your issue. Most likely worn parts through the whole linkage. Waukesha motors werent bad. The 310 diesels did have some issues if pushed too hard. Pretty much the turbo tractors. There were update kits for them. We have a 1650 gas, 1750 with a turbo, and 1755. All been good tractors. Sounds like your first tractor. What did ya give for it ?

300jk · Mar 3, 2022

Also the 1850 diesel had Perkins in them. 1900 and 1950 had Detroits. 2050 and 2150 had Hercules engines. 2255 had a Cat 3150 and later a 3208. Just some history.

Bigeasy16 · Mar 3, 2022

Yes it is my first haha. I mean I grew up round several, I was born on grandads farm but we use John Deeres mostly, and Ive never been the full owner of one so this is a start. I bought this, an old jd 4 14 bottom plow I think it is, and two hay wagons for $2000. Being a junior in high school I cant afford much yet haha. But I thought it was an ok price and the guy needed money for taxes, and hes not farming anymore so, I bought it.

But about the steering I tried to upload a video but I dunno how. Theres slop in the second lower steering u-joint, and then the steering rod going into the power steering unit rotates a good 1/2-3/4 revolution with slop. I looked over the tie rods and whatnot and those are fine though. No slop in em. So Im wondering if I gotta take out the power steering unit, tear it apart, and see if its gooberd up in there or what.

Traditional Farmer · Mar 3, 2022

Phil Heisey will have the steering parts.

300jk · Mar 3, 2022

I would start with tie rod ends, and every other joint before I started ripping more expensive stuff apart. Just saying. Go to the Oliver board with more questions. Lots of knowledgeable guys there.

Bigeasy16 · Mar 3, 2022

Haha oh yeah. When my dad heard bout the deal he laughed and said Id go broke just starting the thing. Seeing how the price of gas is up right now Id burn through $150 in like 5 hours haha!

But if the wauks are ok thatd be good. Like I said I only know what I read. But this work of arts got 1303 hours on it so I hope I did ok. And its working so unless its been replaced, maybe Ill be ok for a bit

formerly ny bill · Mar 3, 2022

you did good on the deal!

fastfarmall · Mar 3, 2022

If that's a original engine,its a 265 cubic in,kinda small,but it shouldn't be to bad to overhaul cost wise, but it's a gas burner is the downside! It will handle 4-14 if the size horse you need!

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 4, 2022

You can't load videos directly to this site, only pictures. They need to be linked from a video hosting site like youtube.

If you blew your budget on the tractor, not much you can do but use it as it is, or park it if it's that bad, until you save up some more.

You'll learn that most tractor repair isn't the "turn a magic screwdriver and adjust the problem away" solution which is what most people come here looking for It's usually "take it apart, see what's wrong, and fix it."

Sounds like you've got a good eye for things, identifying the slop in the U-joint and steering box. You're well on your way.

The U-joint is most likely something standard, something fairly inexpensive, and something you can replace right now. The steering box, you're probably best off trying to find a good used one at a salvage yard. Get an idea what they cost so you know how much to save. In the meantime there's nothing lost by taking the one you have apart to see if something can be done.

SVcummins · Mar 4, 2022

The videos need to be 8 seconds or less and sometimes they still wont go And there quailty Is poor . Look at this way even if the engines were junk if it made 50 years you probably dont have much to worry about

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