Tractor repair involving splitting

perryjosh64 · Feb 25, 2022

Folks I have a 1964 Ford 2000 4 cylinder 134 ci gas tractor with 4 speed trans. Ive kept putting it off to split tractor due to a slow transmission leak that has continued to get worse. Hopefully with stop procrastinating and just do it soon. From what Ive read most common cause of trans leak is the transmission input shaft seal up. Also plan to replace clutch while its open. My question/request for advise is what ELSE should I plan on doing while its split so not doing it all over again in near future?

44 massey · Feb 25, 2022

Check your engine rear makes seal!!!

VicS · Feb 25, 2022

Rear main seal

jm. · Feb 25, 2022

Ever one checks and replaces clutch/disk/ and thro out bearing but there is one more bearing or
actually a bushing in the flywheel that needs to be checked also. Called Pilot bearing.

Geo-TH,In · Feb 25, 2022

I pull the pilot bushing by using a tap. Threaded it into the bushing and when tap came in contact with crankshaft keep twisting on tap and out comes the bushing.

crsutton81 · Feb 25, 2022

Other than what everyone has said,
take a good look at the starter ring
gear on the flywheel while you have
it off. If it's showing signs of
wear it would be a good time to flip
it over if it hasn't already been
done.

MJMJ · Feb 25, 2022

May as well change the freeze plug behind the flywheel while its apart. Sucks having to split one for something so simple.

used red MN · Feb 25, 2022

I would not recommend the tap method of removing a pilot bushing. That gentleman must have a real quality tap or is just lucky. This method is fine if you thread it and then place a bolt in it to jack it out. Removing a broken tap is not a delightful task.

jm. · Feb 25, 2022

Sure looks like it would work. I usually just take a screwdriver or small chisel and tap it in on one side and it will pop out but sure try and replace one ever time I am in that far.

Denny K · Feb 25, 2022

I have removed them by packing with grease and use a piece of shaft the size of the bushing ID and rap the shaft with a hammer.

MARK ROBKE · Feb 25, 2022

My brother once had a 2000 with a transmission leak and it turned out to be one of the welch plugs that seal
the shift rails. He, at first, thought it was the input seal. Mark.

Stephen Newell · Feb 25, 2022

If it were me I would go back with as many new parts as you can find. You don't want to do that job very often.

Dave H (MI) · Feb 25, 2022

From a somewhat different perspective, I would make up a sign that says ran when parked and put the money into one that didn't need the work.

agjim · Feb 25, 2022

Check endplay on input shaft. If you have too much play a new seal may leak. Shims are on the rear of the transmission for
controlling preload for these bearings. To avoid splitting the rear of the transmission to remove shims you can remove the
race from the input tube and put shims underneath the race. I cut these shims from a coke can with scissors. Coke cans are
approximately .003 inch thick and are very consistent in thickness.

stevieb49829 · Feb 25, 2022

I'm with Denny on the pilot removal method, IF it is a bushing. Stick your grease gun into the hole, pump it full of grease until it pushes the nozzle out, and turn or file down a bolt head to fit tightly the ID of the bushing. A few hammer hits, and maybe some more grease and out it will come. Try not to leave an air bubble in the grease. Save your fancy homemade bolt tool for the next person that has the same job to do. I'm a SBC geek, so I still have one I made 40 years ago. steve

MJMJ · Feb 26, 2022

(quoted from post at 22:26:19 02/25/22) From a somewhat different perspective, I would make up a sign that says ran when parked and put the money into one that didn't need the work.

You would rather sell the tractor and buy another one than to do what amounts to a weekend job? You realize all tractor eventually need work? Its not that big of a project, it seems worse until you do it and realize it wasnt that bad. But by all means do everything possible to prevent having to do it again in a couple years.

perryjosh64 · Feb 26, 2022

I appreciate all the advise folks. I had another feller mention replacing the o-rings on the hydraulics but did not mention what/where specific o-rings?

Geo-TH,In · Feb 26, 2022

You think brass bushing is stronger than a tap.
If you ever tried it you would be worried about the tap breaking. Easy peasy.

perryjosh64 · Feb 26, 2022

Does the transmission input shaft seal have another common name/part number? I ask because having hard time finding any details or step-by-step instructions on how to replace and when I go looking for parts associated other names pop up main shaft; oil seal; rear main seal; etc?

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