'Right to Fix' legislation

Crazy Horse · Feb 1, 2022

I'm not a farmer myself but have read about this topic here on the YT site for some time now ..... looks like there is some solution provided by this ...... click on the link below. I guess a few of us here would have this new stuff that was difficult or impossible to repair without factory clearance .....

Interesting that it never did apply to cars (and light trucks I assume) .....
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SVcummins · Feb 1, 2022

Tony in SD · Feb 1, 2022

The Right to Repair movement applies to a lot of things, from tractors to cell phones, cars included. Almost anything with a computer in it, which is almost everything.

moresmoke · Feb 1, 2022

The real problem is not lack of ability to repair the machines. The problem is lack of education.

Using Deere as an example, most all the information needed to make a repair is readily available. You just need to have a diagnostic manual to interpret that information. The same diagnostic manual that the Deere dealer has to buy from mother Deere.

The only things that really require the computer are software updates and emission related controls.

ss55 · Feb 1, 2022

How will that apply to manufacturer owned lease units? Equipment leasing is already a large segment of new tractor and combine sales. Some manufacturers could be ahead to shift to only leasing their newest designs for the first few years until the bugs are worked out and more comprehensive manuals can be developed and then sell the lease return units to smaller farmers.

Another solution would be to design the more complicated machines into easily replaceable modules, like is used on military equipment. If an engine or transmission goes out, even for software problems, pull the whole module and plug in a replacement to get the machine back in the field with less than one day of downtime. Send the module the dealer, a third party supplier, or the manufacturer for in-depth diagnosis and repair.

Food consumers have been demanding similar visibility and traceability from food manufactures, maybe that effort will get some traction from this bill too?

rustred · Feb 1, 2022

that is why i will stick with my 60 year ih 660's ,i can fix them and have lots for parts. a good easy to work on tractor.

4play · Feb 1, 2022

There shouldn't be Law about this, whatever, let the consumers decide who they want to do business with. Anyway I see legitimate arguments on both sides of this. Why should they freely give out information on how to tap into their modules for diagnostics or whatever? You might only want to pull codes or monitor data but what if with very basic programs you can write to the module, and modify the engine or power settings? On the other hand, if you sell a product to someone, you sold him 100% of that product, you should have no restrictions on any of it.

Bruce(OR) · Feb 2, 2022

Right to Repair is compliments of the auto industry and factory proprietary information. The auto makers won't release the info needed by the smaller repair shops or owners to effect repairs. So when your equipment breaks, it's stuck in the field waiting for the shop to send out a tech to fix it. You say that old machine is still in the shed? Maybe that old one can drag this new carcass out of the field.
Then waiting for the tech to show up, maybe, in another week and then order parts. . .

I dealt with the lack of info from various makers going back into the early 90's.

Crazy Horse · Feb 2, 2022

Bruce ..... sounds like you are disagreeing with the article's info about cars ..... sounds like a USA thing, not sure how the car situation is up here in Canada.

'One notable exception are cars, which consumers can repair at any garage they want because of a 2012 Massachusetts law that carmakers later agreed to apply nationally.'

'Right to Fix' legislation

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