200 Ford 6 cylinder

NHbalerman · Jan 30, 2022

I got a Ford 200 6 cylinder on a 1495 New Holland self propelled hay one and I can't get it to start up. Got good blue fire got good compression about 175 in each cylinder drained all the gas and put fresh gas in it and can't get it to start it never hits choke it and it loads up stop and smoke comes out of exhaust it was setting up a while when I got it and is hard to start but was running fine when I parked it. The only time it has tried to start is when I m advanced all the plug wires on the cap it almost ran but you could tell it was a little too advanced thanks for any advice

300jk · Jan 30, 2022

Plugged intake ? Dont know how long its been sitting. Critters and bugs are bad for that !

John Garner · Jan 30, 2022

Check your ignition timing; don't trust timing marks on the front pulley, pull #1 sparkplug to set the crank to Top Dead Center following the compression stroke.

rustred · Jan 30, 2022

them small 6 bangers are a buggar to start when sitting just like in the versatile 400 swathers. you need a good strong battery and they take quite a bit of choke . once they fire i push the choke in 1/2 way and do it like that. and ony 1/2 throttle then when it fires lots of times you got to keep working the choke to get it going. i would conferm correct timing to the spec on the valve cover. that moving the distributor here to there is not the answer. and if that dont work give it a shot of starting fluid.

Russ from MN · Jan 30, 2022

If it ran when parked why are you messing with the timing?

NHbalerman · Jan 30, 2022

Well I ran out of things to do and it loads up when you choke it like the timing could be off been setting about a month but has always been hard to start

Steve@Advance · Jan 30, 2022

X2, check the exhaust too!

Also check the oil for overfull and gas contamination.

sotxbill · Jan 30, 2022

probably carb jets stopped up.

Texasmark · Jan 30, 2022

Checking the air path is certainly a thing to do...yes on the critter contamination. BTDT

Hobo,NC · Jan 31, 2022

Explain good blue fire. The ozone determines the color, color does not mean its good. To take the doubt out you need a spark checker with an adjustable gap.

Points ignition check at 2/0, electronic 3/0. Not close at those settings are beyond.

BTW 4/0 is for GM HEI electronic ignition 3/4" gap

This post was edited by Hobo,NC on 01/31/2022 at 04:53 am.

showcrop · Jan 31, 2022

What does "it never hits choke it and it loads up stop" mean???

Leroy · Jan 31, 2022

Woulf that Ford 200 6 cylinder engine be the same as the 200 engine used in the cars in the 60's to 80's time span?

NHbalerman · Jan 31, 2022

It never hits means never fires like it is
trying to start and with choke pulled out
it loads up like it is out of time and
stalls the starter. Clear as mud? That's
the best way I can describe it. I thought
last night about the timing chain that
might be the problem?

NHbalerman · Jan 31, 2022

I always heard the spark needs to be blue.
I am going to check the timing chain I
forgot about these engines having one

Texasmark · Jan 31, 2022

I think the 1960 Falcon introduction came with a little 185 and my friend had one with 3 on the tree, 2 door sedan and got the expected 30 MPG. A year or two later they upped it to 200 to compensate for all the crap they started adding (opinion) to the little perfect economy car as it was.

I can't believe Iacocca put the Mustang V8 engine and shell on that chassis...............

Hobo,NC · Jan 31, 2022

I think it was a 144 that's what was in my comet 80mph tops going down hill with a tail wind.

Hobo,NC · Jan 31, 2022

I don't go by hearsay I prove it... A bad set of points, condenser are coil all will produce blue spark and a no start : (...

Anyone that would wonder off and look elsewhere with out confirming good spark deserves to chase their tail.

NHbalerman · Feb 3, 2022

well i might of found the problem the timing chain is wore out and I got one ordered that should fix the problem fingers crossed

Brian G. NY · Feb 4, 2022

(quoted from post at 01:59:18 02/01/22) I think the 1960 Falcon introduction came with a little 185 and my friend had one with 3 on the tree, 2 door sedan and got the expected 30 MPG. A year or two later they upped it to 200 to compensate for all the crap they started adding (opinion) to the little perfect economy car as it was.

I can't believe Iacocca put the Mustang V8 engine and shell on
that chassis...............

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Started as a 144 1n 1960, went to a 170 and then in 1965 they made a 200 available which became the base engine in the Mustang. The big difference, the 200 had 7 main brngs instead of 4. They did use the industrial version of the 200 on all kinds of equipment. Tough little engine.

d9gdon · Feb 6, 2022

(quoted from post at 17:34:38 01/30/22) I got a Ford 200 6 cylinder on a 1495 New Holland self propelled hay one and I can't get it to start up. Got good blue fire got good compression about 175 in each cylinder drained all the gas and put fresh gas in it and can't get it to start it never hits choke it and it loads up stop and smoke comes out of exhaust it was setting up a while when I got it and is hard to start but was running fine when I parked it. The only time it has tried to start is when I m advanced all the plug wires on the cap it almost ran but you could tell it was a little too advanced thanks for any advice

That timing chain should help it start better.

Another thing I have started doing is to replace every spark plug that I own with NGK, I have had so many faulty new Champion and AC/Delco and Autolite plugs. Of course, all made in China now...NGK may be too but at least they have a QC system.

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