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Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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Sorry, you weren't lightning-quick enough.

Ford has stopped accepting reservations for the upcoming F-150 Lightning pickup to prepare to begin converting the ones it has into orders before production kicks off next spring.

The F-150 Lightning is available in several trims with prices ranging from just under $40,000 to over $90,000, while two battery sizes will be offered providing estimated ranges of 230 miles and 300 miles per charge.

It seems not everyone is anti EV.
 
What source will provide the electricity to charge all of them? Coal? fossil fuels nuclear? Your solar panels and wind farms aint gonna cut it
 
My brother in law told me yesterday that he ordered one.Orders are at 160,000 right now.One thing that surprised him was the fact that the required down payment was more of a token payment,to show good faith.The salesman told him it would be no big deal if he backed out,there is a waiting list to take his place.
 
its been done...
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el cami no gas
 
Gordo,
Duke has plans to raise rates 1% a year to pay for increased demand.
Plans to keep nuke plants going past their date.
Also plans to make new safer nuke plants.
Coal plants around me scheduled to
shut down. Two Mega solar farms to take their place.
Mega wind farms about 60 miles due north of Terre Haute.

Times are changing, like it or not.
 
Gordo, more energy from the sun falls on this planet in ONE hour than is needed to provide for a year's worth of global human requirements! We'll get there, maybe not in our lifetimes, but we will get there -WE HAVE TOO!

JD
 
GEO look up the range towing a 3600lb boat with heat and headlights on its about 90 miles thats real world testing
 
(quoted from post at 10:05:02 12/09/21) Gordo, more energy from the sun falls on this planet in ONE hour than is needed to provide for a year's worth of global human requirements! We'll get there, maybe not in our lifetimes, but we will get there -WE HAVE TOO!

JD
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We do not "have to" because we still have hundreds of years worth of petroleum in the ground and the technology to get to it cheaper is far ahead of sun catchers.
 
No chance I'll buy a F150 ev.
After selling a property I don't need a truck to pull implement trailer.
My 07 GMC should be my last truck, my lifetime truck. I drive a car. Truck is on limited duty.
Car only has 45 k. It's 4 years old.
That car should be good for another 11 years.
I may not live that long to need another car or truck.
 
Lets look at this from the average Joe American perspective because I think some of you are thinking up problems just to justify your resistance to change.

The average American does not drive 250 miles a day.
His car or pickup never leaves the metropolitan area he bought it in.
So he is not worried about charge stations on the road.
A home charge station in his garage will be enough.
Add the ability to fly and rent a car and long distance travel is out the window.

The average American could care less where the electricity comes from or how it is made no more than he cares where gasoline comes from. As long as a steady supply of fuel is available at a reasonable cost who cares if it comes from a coal or nuclear power station.

The average American could care less how much it cost to replace the battery.
No more than he cares how much it cost to replace the gasoline motor in the car he has now.
As long as the battery/gasoline motor last the 7 to 10 years he will own the truck who cares what happens down the road.
If the battery is not expected to last till the new car is traded in it becomes a maintenance item like a oil change.

One could say the overall cost per day of use would be a factor.
Cost of truck with maintenance and fuel used included.
But with the disposable income of today and what people are paying for new pickups this might be a null and void point.
As long as the truck takes him where he wants to go and back home again with no worries all that other stuff is pointless.
 


I can see that this EV thing is getting way out of hand. They are becoming way too popular and selling far too well for something that is no good. Some YTers need to get together and form an organization to fight them. Arrange picket lines at the dealers. Send out mass mailers. Go after the right wing extremists to kick in their fair share of dollars for a Madison Avenue type advertising campaign to publicize the stupidity of the whole EV thing. Don't just sit at the keyboard and whine about them. Mobilize!! I nominate 48caseVAI to head it up. He could maybe get "retired farmer" to be a deputy.
 
For many people, an electric truck may make sense. Ever do truck bed inspections when walking across a store parking lot? Many have very little wear in the bed. Rarely used as trucks. Others though, the bed is all scratched & dented, and the receiver hitch has a lot of wear in it.

Some of us, though, do work our trucks, and for long distances (camping & pulling tractors to shows.....for example). Electric won't convienently work for us.

Electric vehicles have come a long way in the past couple decades. Be interesting to see where they are in another decade or two. 30 years ago, electric vehicles were a novelty and you were lucky to get 50 miles out of one, and they were very cheezly built to boot !
 
All I can say is after reading the replies to this is Merle Haggard nailed with the song Rainbow Stew.

We'll all be drinking that free bubble up and eatin' that rainbow stew!
 
GeoTHin,

I don't have much issue with any energy conservation. I do, however, have issue with subsidizing it ( taxes).

If it were that wonderful, then maybe the money taken from my check wouldn't be necessary.

D.

See if other countries would subsidize USA electric vehicles....probably not gonna happen. Heck, see if other countries would reduce their footprint.
 
> Some YTers need to get together and form an organization to fight them.

I know, we'll BOYCOTT their EVs! That'll show them! Oh wait, I guess that won't work.

We'll boycott their NON-EVs! That'll bring those manufacturers to their knees when their new car and truck sales nosedive. Oh, wait, nobody here buys those, either.
 
(quoted from post at 08:22:03 12/09/21) GEO look up the range towing a 3600lb boat with heat and headlights on its about 90 miles thats real world testing
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That's pretty impressive considering it wasn't that long ago that a tiny electric car could barely manage 90 miles.

As for where the power is coming from, more and more of these things are hitting the road, and the lights come on when you flip the switch on the wall don't they?
 
Id venture a guess EV's are NOT in most of our futures, but they may well be in our kids and especially grandkids REGARDLESS if any of us old farts like it or not, they arent making them for us anyway lol My daughter loves hers (my nephew ordered a Ford PU) but hey shes much younger with different transportation needs....To each their own is fine by me

John T
 
Dennis,
How are you going to feel when Duke wants to increase your residential rate to pay for grid upgrades needed for new EV demands? Duke is asking for a 1%/year increase for the next 5 years starting in 2024.
I personally think Duke stock holders should pay for the upgrade and charge a commercial rate with a road tax included for the electricity used at all EV charging stations, including at your house.
Make it a user pay plan, not stick it to residential customers.
 
Geo in Th,

I am unsure of what I wrote and how it was understood. I do not believe that EV is the answer for everybody. I was kinda asking why we beat ourselves silly, when the other parts of the world contribute lots to pollution.

EV is a simple balance of energy for me, You got to get that energy somewhere.

I think there are merits to some EV, but a wholesale change out from fossil fuel is not practical for a good part of the populace, seeing the usa has a large area of different climes and needs.

D.
 
(quoted from post at 20:01:56 12/09/21) You don't know much about Teslas, Do you?
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I know he is a very rich guy, at least on paper. Well, not THE Tesla, he didn't fare as well.
 
Thats the way to deal with someone who has a
different opinion than you... start pitting people
against one another because they dared to express
their views....
 
I'd like to pass on battery powered cars until they either go nuclear/hybrid, or sunshine & unicorn farts.

Let the consumer market decide what they want. Not a single tax dollar should provide subsidies, incentives or rebates.
 
(quoted from post at 23:26:39 12/09/21) I'd like to pass on battery powered cars until they either go nuclear/hybrid, or sunshine & unicorn farts.

Let the consumer market decide what they want. Not a single tax dollar should provide subsidies, incentives or rebates.
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..or try to tax & regulate the other out of business!!!!
 
I'm surprised no one has yet to declare that EV's can't possibly work because water in the first rain or the first car wash will most certainly short out the batteries.

It has been an interesting discussion though.
 
When I college in the 60s chemistry professor said we could get rich if we had a
solution to California's smog problems. They have to breathe their exhaust trapped by the mountains.

So you might see why California is
pro clean air.
I'm guessing they still have smog problem the rest of us don't understand
 
A whopping 90 miles huh what is it at 40 below zero 20 miles? So I could get to town but then have to walk back ?
 
A whopping 90 miles huh what is it at 40 below zero 20 miles? So I could get to town but then have to walk back ? I guess it is a dorf so not much different than regular
 
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