Sorta tractor related. First service?

Neighbor brought me his new little John Deere for its first service. He has no way to haul it. So he drove it 3/4 mile to my shop. I told him I would service it only if he brought me Genuine JD filters and oil. So that his warranty would be good. I followed the first maintenance instructions in the operators manual. And those instructions were pretty good and helpful. It had me drain out the main drive train housing and remove the return screen. I was surprised at how much fines were on the screen and magnet so I took several pictures before I cleaned it. Manual said to do first service at 100 hours. Now I just bought a new Ford Explorer and the operators manual tells me what to use to get bug juice off of the paint and how to open the hood type stuff. Says my dealer knows what needs service and when. Salesman said between 3 and 5 thousand for first service. Book says a oil change message will appear. I keep my vehicles for many years and have always serviced them myself. This thing has a four cylinder turbo engine, 8 speed auto trans and on demand four wheel drive. Will there be any fines on the return screen? Oh yeah book says not to drink the contents of the battery. Just wonder if the auto industry is ahead of John Deere in breakin tech? Not a KIA

I took my Kubota to the dealer for 50 hr service.
It wasn't cheap.
While under warranty the dealer will do all my service work.
The tractor cost too much not to use the dealer.
NO way can the dealer blame me if something breaks.

On a brand new tractor the gears are sharp and fresh. There will be some significant wear as they break in, but once they've worn into each other there should be little to no fines in the screen.

Also, I thought you weren't allowed to service your own Deere tractor? What's all the ruckus about then? People were making out like it was illegal to change your own oil.

Hey maybe I should not have serviced it! The dealer STOTZ sold him the filters and oil. I might add that this was a very small
tractor.

First of all, this is purely hearsay on my part.

I was thinking the JD thing involved any kind of reprogramming or any other changes or improvement with aftermarket parts, etc. Much like folks
will take a new pickup and put a different chip, or reprogram the existing one.

Well today even though at one time i held a masters tech certification's with Ford and Chrysler and even back several years ago i did something i said i would never do , and that was buy a Scan tool . I went and bought one to work on my own . Yep it was a Bunch of green stamps for a Snap on Solus . It served well for the year range , then along came the newer car that with the help of old friends in low places even though i was the THIRD owner we got a LOT of Chrysler warranty work on it plus the work i did all was sorta well . For the big stuff i let my friend handle it with the Scan Star system . Till the day it died on the WAR DEPT. Well my scan tool was not up- to date and told me ah Nope ain't ha going to sell you what is wrong .So after weighing all the options of do i BUY a NEW updated HIGH TECH scan tool that will DO IT all OR DUMP the rag and BUY a NEW ride with warranty and let the young bucks work on it along with the service . THe getting down on the ground is the easy part since GRAVITY is working with me , It's the getting back up tat has become the problem . SO rolling around UNDER it changing the oil has now become a problem . Soooooo instead of updating a scan tool that will cover and DO ALL that is needed on todays JUNK lets just take the five K and add 2 K to it and get a NEW RIDE that we BOTH like . SOOooooo i found a new 2021 Jeep Cherokee that had 95% of everything we BOTH wanted in a Color we BOTH liked and Bought the last one in captivity and for the NEXT 3 years or 36000 miles EVERYTHING is on the Factory and drive line wise for the next FIVE years it is on the factory , so IF i live five more years i Don't have to worry about it and if i make the next five i still don't have to worry about it with the extended warranty . And as it is looking now not to sure on the next five .

you probably won't find a dipstick for the transmission on your new ford.

may not even have a transmission pan. might??? have a drain plug but i wouldn't count on it. so service is mostly just for the dealer.

for oil i would only use GOOD full synthetic oil like AMSOIL or mobil 1 or Castrol to handle the turbo requirements. for consumer stuff the warrantees are a bit more lax as long as the oil meets oem specs

The latest craz, its cheap and folks say its a good tool.

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BTW 2018 and up Chryslers I don't work on them and don't want to work on any of them if I can get out of it.

Chryslers gateway is my excuse other than I have got rather independent and don't need them...

...NO way can the dealer blame me if something breaks....
Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't test it.

Thanks for the tip on drinking the battery contents. My wife has an Explorer and I was thinking of having a small glass of battery contents this evening. I will have a Grain Belt instead.

I bought a new Chevy pickup two years ago. The first oil change was on them. I've changed it since. And I've paid them to do it. I was surprised at how reasonable their prices were. So much so that the only reason I did it was because they were so busy.

That's an interesting comment about 'only JD oils and filters' to keep the warranty valid. I'm not questioning you on that but I would like to see it in print. The big car manufacturers don't have that condition, as long as the product meets the spec they state, it doesn't have to be their own brand. Where did you hear or see that for JD's?

Cant go wrong with a New alum product. Youll have less indigestion in the morning.

There is a law and I think maybe it is called the Magnum-Moss Act that says as long as the item used meets the OEM specs they cannot escape the warranty problem. Found out about it when I was the grease monkey for a big mining company here. Equipment selling company wanted to deny a warranty claim on some hydraulic work for a big track type excavator because we ran an oil they did not list. My company pushed the case and the other crowd had to back down because the Cit-go oil actually exceeded their spec.

No way can the dealer blame for not properly servicing it when they do the service work.
I'll pay the dealer and not worry about fighting them if something fails under warranty.

Long and short, dealers have to make a profit or they will go out of business.
My dealer has been in business since 1967. I would like to see them remain in business as long as I'm alive. BTY, Kubota, Case IH dealer is he ony dealer in Terre Haute.

Might want to read what warranties don't cover.Abuse for instance can mean a lot of things to different people.

I did not know what was expected from JD. Just figured it made sense to use OEM stuff. After all he had already spent more on his one little tractor than I have on all 13 of my antique Oliver, Allis, Massey Harris and Farmall tractors!

Hey who knew!

And I guess a guy never knows what hurdles you might encounter unless you do that. For sure, some guys sink a ton of money into their tractors. What kind of Massey Harris tractor(s) do you have? I have a MH20 which I keep out at our tractor club's farm site which the county provides for us, photo below. We're just east of Edmonton in central Alberta. The club just picked up a 101 Junior which we are working on and will use for some of our hay & grain farming. Our club link is below if you want to take a look .... where do you live?



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When we bought our last Subaru the dealer told me to always use genuine Subaru filters to keep the warranty in effect. We took it to a different Subaru dealer for service when traveling once, and they installed an off brand generic filter. I will never go back to that dealer. We now order Subaru filters online and I use Mobil 1 from WM.

Local couple bought one of these new fancy side be side ATV's. Bought it from a dealer 1 1/2 hours away (no dealer closer). It was mentioned one day, they were going to haul it back to the dealership for its first oil change. I asked why. They said it came with one free oil change when they bought it. I said, well wouldn't it be cheaper to forfeit the free oil change, change it at your own expense, than hauling it there for a free one. They said they THOUGHT the warranty would be void if they changed it themselves. I think I would of checked it out. But, I didn't say anything more. They're the type of people that do everything by the book, and don't change oil themselves anyway.
Are there really warranties out there now where you can't even change your own oil, IF you use factory brand oil and filters???

The two I have here in Northern Utah are not fixed up yet. But they do run. I think one is a 101 Junior and the other is a 22. I need air cleaners for both of them!