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Paul007

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How does this cap come off? No holes or flats, just the hole in the body. 1974 Massey

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Can you see a wire inside the hole? If so, fasten the far end in a vise and slowly turn collar by the hole and the wire should feed out of the hole. Once out, collar and shaft should come out.
 

Yes, there is a thick wire in there but I'm not following you. Fasten the far end of the shaft in the vice? The hole is not in the cap, it's in the body.
 
The wire acts like a big c-clip. It sits in a groove that is in both the ram/shaft and the body. once the wire is removed everything pulls apart. As was mentioned
before, clamp the ram/shaft in a vise and turn the body. If the shaft is to be reused just clamp on the yoke/far end of shaft as to not damage the area the seal rides
on. The wire is directional so if one full turn of the body clockwise does not make the wire come out then try one full turn counterclockwise. If this does not work,
see if the collar spins separate from the body, if it does you will then have to clamp the body in the vise and spin the collar to remove the wire.
 
OK thanks Funky, didn't see your post. Will try in the AM and report back.

This post was edited by Paul007 on 10/27/2021 at 07:01 pm.
 
The wire has a hook on the last end that comes out and the gland has a hole in it for the hook. You will see how this works when the wire comes out.

The wire should come out same as a screw, righty tighty, lefty loosey. You may need to "tease" the end of the wire out of the hole to get it started.
 
Not coming apart easily. I put the ram in the vice, the body just spins, either way. So I put the body in the vice and a pipe wrench on the cap. Haven't given it enough torque to put teeth marks in it but it's not wanting to turn. If I have to lean on, which way, lefty loosey?
 
Well now I have leaned on it pretty hard, still no budge. Heat maybe? Just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.


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Got it. Pretty exciting when that wire starts coming out, for an old man that is.

So the seal I need to replace is down in here, right? If I take the outer seal off will the spacer behind come out or do I have to dig it out where it sits?

Thanks for the replies guys.


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(quoted from post at 17:24:36 10/29/21) Got it. Pretty exciting when that wire starts coming out, for an old man that is.

So the seal I need to replace is down in here, right? If I take the outer seal off will the spacer behind come out or do I have to dig it out where it sits?

Thanks for the replies guys.


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There is not a spacer between the wiper and seal, the seal is in a slot machined into the gland, you have to dig it out.
 
OK now I have the new seal squeezed into place in the collar, a bit of a feat on it's own, but it won't slide over even the end of the rod, which even has a slightly reduced diameter than the main shaft. How do I get the lip of the seal over it, and past the edge onto the main part of the shaft?

Must be a trick to it.

This post was edited by Paul007 on 11/04/2021 at 03:10 pm.
 
Well I put a .005" feeler gauge in there and spun the collar around and it went on pretty easy. Hopefully didn't hurt the seal, don't think so.
 
Done! I put the ram back on, then went to do the other side. Didn't even take the ram off, just undid the hose and pin on the one end. The cap, which was stuck like glue on the first one, turned easily. And now that I'm a pro and fenagling those new seals in and on, I was done in a few minutes.

The old seals were just dust, not a pea sized chunk left. They are original from 1974 but odd they were so bad, the wipers and everything else were fine. I put some of that Lucas hydraulic stop leak in a couple years ago when they started leaking, I wonder if that stuff messed them up?

Anyway, thanks again for the help fellas.
 
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