Yesterays Truck Tire

rusty6 · Oct 24, 2021

I know this is not an old truck forum but figured maybe somebody had some practical experience with truck tube. I took apart the 8.25x20 wheel and tire from my old IH gravel truck as it has a slow leak around the valve stem. New tubes are not readily available locally. I don't want to leave the truck sitting immobile while I wait so wondered if it would be an option to use a 900x20 tube in the 8.25 tire?

doug in missouri · Oct 24, 2021

Old gravel truck? Not likely to see much high speed driving. If it was mine I would use the tube you have on hand. Worst thing is might wear out faster, but not likely. DOUG

the tractor vet · Oct 24, 2021

No , it will wrinkle and fail . If you have these on your truck you may want to upgrade to the tubeless 22.5 wheels and tires because the days are fast approaching tthat nobody wants to mess with any style of two or three piece rims.

Bruce from Can. · Oct 24, 2021

Today on ,My classic truck tire. But wheres the video?

rustred · Oct 24, 2021

it will be ok for field work. i have seen many tires with one size bigger tube. a 900 is not a lot bigger than 825.

504 · Oct 24, 2021

Chances are good that the tube will list both sizes. Put the new tube
and liner in and add air,then let it out. Just to get the wrinkles out.

teddy52food · Oct 24, 2021

Can you find a stem to glue on? A bigger tube may wrinkle. Those old tubes seem to be
thicker than the new ones anyhow.

J.Wondergem · Oct 24, 2021

Just sprinkle plenty of baby or talcum powder inside so the tube can slide around and adjust itself while you air it up. Keeps it from wrinkling up.

rusty6 · Oct 24, 2021

(quoted from post at 09:36:34 10/24/21) Today on ,My classic truck tire. But wheres the video?

Bruce I have not done any video of this tire job yet but I did shoot some while working on an old Ford solid ring split a couple of weeks ago. I have not done the editing to get all the swearing out yet but it might eventually show up on youtub.

rusty6 · Oct 24, 2021

(quoted from post at 10:19:25 10/24/21) Can you find a stem to glue on? A bigger tube may wrinkle. Those old tubes seem to be
thicker than the new ones anyhow.

I considered trying to patch the leak by the stem but its a hard place to get a patch to sit down. I don't want to have to do this job twice. And yes, some new tubes and tires are crap to put it mildly. I expect these in the truck are 50+ years old just like some of the tires. This is a farm and field truck that will not see high speeds or long distance but will carry some heavy loads of gravel, dirt, etc.

jm. · Oct 24, 2021

Tennessee still a loot of those ol 60/70s trucks running around with 8>25 and 900 . I know we have
some with 900 tubes in them. Fo what you are wanting to do no problem./

fixerupper · Oct 24, 2021

Like Wondergem said talc it up good and pump it up then let the air out a couple times. If you are putting a 10.00 tube in that tire you might have problems. I would be more nervous putting an undersized tube in a tire than one that is slightly oversized like yours.

Bruce from Can. · Oct 24, 2021

Be careful with those old lock rig tires while you inflate them. I
am sure you are aware of the danger, just dont take any
chances, chain them up, and add air the first time with a
remote pressure control if you can. I knew two guys that had
bad experience with old tires.

caterpillar guy · Oct 24, 2021

Use it for the miles you are going to run it it will last more years than you will probably. As for the wheels/rims those wheels can also be had in tubeless 22.5 that are much easier to find and cheap if gotten in a junkyard. We just picked up a dozen 10R-22.5's for about 38.00per tire with wheels already on and inflated in the junkyard. Look like new tread on some of them too.

rusty6 · Oct 24, 2021

(quoted from post at 15:46:36 10/24/21) As for the wheels/rims those wheels can also be had in tubeless 22.5 that are much easier to find and cheap if gotten in a junkyard

I've heard often about updating the old Dayton and Budd wheels to the newer style 22.5s. I don't see myself doing that on the gravel truck for the few miles it sees but have considered that option for the Loadstar that is my main grain hauler at harvest time. Although I don't know how a 22.5 wheel is going to fit onto the spokes where my 20 inch wheels came off.

DWF · Oct 24, 2021

The inside diameter on a 22.5" wheel for a cast spoke hub is made to fit the 20" diameter, so you will have no problem. The out side diameter of a 10/22.5 tire is the same as a 9:00 X 20 tire
DWF

J Hamilton · Oct 24, 2021

Trust me, they do fit. I wasn't sure myself
at first but I've changed several out
without a problem. On your old Loadstar just
be sure the fronts aren't too wide and rub
the tie rod ends. They did on mine, it was a
64 Loadstar 1600

rusty6 · Oct 24, 2021

Thanks guys, that is some useful information on the 22.5 tires. Might be a good option for the 71 Loadstar 1600 although it has pretty good tires all around at
present.

thehickdaddy · Oct 25, 2021

Like others said, many tubes say 9 00 and
8.25 on same tube.

And use lots of baby powder as dry lube
abd you are good to go.

And yes some wrecking yards have stacks of
tubeless dayton style rims for cast
spokes. 22.5 tubeless rim is direct
replacement for 20 inch split bead as a
24.5 tubeless rim is direct replacement
for 22 inch split bead.

Those rims are still built every day for
container trailers as well as heavy haul
trailers due to their higher weight
rating.

I am sure this place is out of business
but here are a few ads from one of my
grandpas parts catalogs that list tubes
and valve stems

BarnyardEngineering · Oct 25, 2021

I don't think you are going to find that bolt pattern in a 22.5" tire.

BarnyardEngineering · Oct 25, 2021

Although I don't know how a 22.5 wheel is going to fit onto the spokes where my 20 inch wheels came off.

This is one of the rims that fits the old style Dayton hubs. Notice the extra structure in the center of the rim:

rusty6 · Oct 25, 2021

(quoted from post at 09:05:01 10/25/21) Like others said, many tubes say 9 00 and
8.25 on same tube.
I am sure this place is out of business
but here are a few ads from one of my
grandpas parts catalogs that list tubes
and valve stems

I like your grandfather's catalog. He must have saved stuff just like me. The little research I have done shows new tube prices on the high side of $50. I have a local guy on the search for one today so the job is on hold for now.

Jim.ME · Oct 25, 2021

(quoted from post at 12:05:01 10/25/21) Like others said, many tubes say 9 00 and
8.25 on same tube.

And use lots of baby powder as dry lube
abd you are good to go.

And yes some wrecking yards have stacks of
tubeless dayton style rims for cast
spokes. 22.5 tubeless rim is direct
replacement for 20 inch split bead as a
24.5 tubeless rim is direct replacement
for 22 inch split bead.

Those rims are still built every day for
container trailers as well as heavy haul
trailers due to their higher weight
rating.

I am sure this place is out of business
but here are a few ads from one of my
grandpas parts catalogs that list tubes
and valve stems

<img src=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto105841.jpg>

<img src=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto105842.jpg>

<img src=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto105843.jpg>

That name is gone but the company lives on by its better known name: J.C. Whitney. I remember someone saying "no way would they buy the junk from J.C. Whitney, he got what he needed from Warshawsky." I think the two catalogs actually had the same physical address on them, at least for a while.

http://clubs.hemmings.com/gatewayhealey/Catalog giant JC Whitney.pdf

miner09 · Oct 25, 2021

Warshawsky was the wholesale end of J.C. Whitney. Same
company. Did business with Warshawsky in the 70's and
80's. Roy Warshawsky was the owner and ran the company
until his death in 1997. Had a large antique car
collection. Had Lincolns and Fords and several different
types of auto's and buses etc.

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