Neighbor is looking at some alfalfa hay for his horses. Hay supplier has second cut that he said got frosted and some of the leaves turned black. He says the black leaves a poisonous to horses. Is this true? I have never heard of black leaves before, mountain hay at 8500' so frost is issue this time of year. Thanks
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fastfarmall
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I am sure it's not good for them, horse hay has got to be perfect!
I'd say it depends on the horse and the owner. Around here horses eat right alongside cows from hay hoops filled with whatever the owner finds for hay, including Johnson Grass and Sudan Sorghum Haygrazer and all that forbidden stuff. That's the same horses that graze right alongside cattle eating the same thing, picking grass shoots out from between a field full of weeds.
Never see a vet out in the field around here.
Never see a vet out in the field around here.
Timmycornpicker
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- Almost Pennsylvania, New Jersey.
also things like 'your hay gave my horse worms!'
Jim in rush co
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- Rush Co. Indiana
4520BW, I did you end up with the fall Armyworms in your 4th? The first cutting made 11 big rounds per acre 2nd and 3rd 7&6 the 4th with the worms 1 bale per acre. They cut it I think 27 or 28th, looks better today.
steve_in_mo
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Right! Just like the organic vegan food their people eat.
caterpillar guy
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Dad had some hay that was black like that some folks looked at it and left. Then one guy looked at it bought some and appeared to like it for feed and bought the rest of it. It smelled ok was not moldy or spoiled just black. Was good and dry. Was hay done in the fall. Laid out a long time to get dry.
john in la
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Its the sorghum family IE: Johnson grass; Sudan grass; Grain sorghum; that have a problem with poisoning after a frost.
Ruminants are most at risk because they chew the grass over and over releasing the poison.
Poisoning usually occurs with grazing animals because poison is released after a week or two.
While this can be a real problem in the south when grazing cattle on fields with Johnson grass I doubt horse owners are at risk with their selective pampering of their baby.
Ruminants are most at risk because they chew the grass over and over releasing the poison.
Poisoning usually occurs with grazing animals because poison is released after a week or two.
While this can be a real problem in the south when grazing cattle on fields with Johnson grass I doubt horse owners are at risk with their selective pampering of their baby.
onefarmer
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I asked my Grandfather about feeding horses. He said the worse feed was clover and alfalfa. When he was using horses in the field he just fed normal timothy or orchard grass and when worked extra grain.
Jim in rush co
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- Rush Co. Indiana
Renters said about all of their fields had them but worse here at my place, 2-3 days and nothing but stems. Several counties had trouble with them.
john in la
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Fall Armyworms.
A present from the deep south.
You are welcome.
Hopefully we will have a cold winter this year reducing their numbers that fly north.
A present from the deep south.
You are welcome.
Hopefully we will have a cold winter this year reducing their numbers that fly north.
Jim in rush co
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- Rush Co. Indiana
I had some late sweetcorn that would have been ready by Labor Day but after they cut the alfalfa they moved in and destroyed the corn. Hard to believe how fast those suckers grew in size.
Phil-mar Farms
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