wire baler newby

Centerplate · Aug 21, 2021

I am going to run an old wire tie baler with another guy today. I have never been around one, so I could use some tips or tricks to get me started. The wire in the box does not look rusted. It is an Oliver 100.

Bob Bancroft · Aug 21, 2021

We always used hooks. Some used gloves also. I don't know what kind of a twist that baler makes, but you want to be mindful when stabbing a bale that you're not driving your hand into the twist.
It's either going to tie, or it isn't. There are probably rollers in various places where the wire feeds. They need to be in good shape -[not with a deep groove worn in them] and turn freely. Just something that simple can really mess things up. Just like a worn insulator on a twine baler, where a worn groove can slow the twine feed enough to ruin your day.

NY 986 · Aug 21, 2021

A cup of light engine oil applied to each roll of wire is helpful to keep wire moving. Wire balers make heavier denser bales so the start and finish times for the day may very from twine balers. My first load ever that I baled hay with wire I found out to back the tensioners off more than I would with twine as some bales molded. The Northeast on average has more high humidity days than other parts of the US so you may be dry enough on average to not be so concerned with dampness and mold.

shaun wallace · Aug 21, 2021

Punch hole in top of boxes and put some used motor oil in there and center hole It will save a bunch of grief.

Tx Jim · Aug 21, 2021

(quoted from post at 12:39:13 08/21/21) A cup of light engine oil applied to each roll of wire is helpful to keep wire moving. Wire balers make heavier denser bales so the start and finish times for the day may very from twine balers. My first load ever that I baled hay with wire I found out to back the tensioners off more than I would with twine as some bales molded. The Northeast on average has more high humidity days than other parts of the US so you may be dry enough on average to not be so concerned with dampness and mold.

Granted normal baling wire is stronger than twine BUT just because a baler utilizes wire doesn't cause the bales to be any heavier than twine tied bales.

Heavier bales all other things equal are caused by tightening/loosening of """bale chamber tensioning devices controlled by baler operator"" not by type of bale restraining material.

I'm only familiar with JD small sq balers & except for tying components excluding options JD 348 & other model sq balers are identical whether the bale is secured with wire or twine.

Ditto on adding oil to rolls of wire & checking wire guides/rollers.

This post was edited by Tx Jim on 08/21/2021 at 11:05 am.

NY 986 · Aug 21, 2021

The point was that because wire will take more tension than twine guys tended to tension the bales heavier with a wire baler.
Back when we bought our 347 baler new the truckers were pushing for heavy loads on hay. It was never a matter of the baler
arbitrarily making heavier bales because it was a wire tie unit. It was a matter of making sure that the bales were not so dense
based on conditions that they could not breath. I hope this helps explain things.

Tx Jim · Aug 21, 2021

IMHO quality control of baling wire made today isn't as good as it was 30-40 yrs ago therefore wire can break easier today than yesteryear if bales get very heavy similar to years ago.

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