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Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
They should just cut all the trees off the right of way.
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Geo-TH,In
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Duke asked if they could cut a walnut tree, I said yes. Please leave me the log. I want to send it to sawmill.
I forgot to tell them not to cut the log in 18 inch lengths.
I'm guessing Duke asked if they could cut this tree down?
Owner said no, so Duke just cut the part of the tree that could take down high voltage power lines. Sure bet, the homeowner isn't happy.
Duke left the large branches on ground and ground up the small stuff.
I forgot to tell them not to cut the log in 18 inch lengths.
I'm guessing Duke asked if they could cut this tree down?
Owner said no, so Duke just cut the part of the tree that could take down high voltage power lines. Sure bet, the homeowner isn't happy.
Duke left the large branches on ground and ground up the small stuff.
chuck machinist
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Dominion Energy like Duke contracts that work out. Keep in mind power companies are under pressure from tree huggers as well as other environmental groups. Just saying.CM
Jim.ME
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- central ME
If you research this with them, you will likely find there are restrictions/requirements as to what they can prune. I know here they are allowed to trim a certain footage of healthy trees around the wires, unless the landowner agrees to more, thus we have usually tunnels through the limbs.
As for leaving a log, if you want a log here, I believe the practice is they will trim until the trunk is below the wires then you are responsible to drop the rest yourself; at least that the way it worked for a couple I know of. Small pieces taken from the top down minimize the risk of something dropping in the wrong place, they are trimming not logging.
This post was edited by Jim.ME on 08/21/2021 at 05:48 am.
As for leaving a log, if you want a log here, I believe the practice is they will trim until the trunk is below the wires then you are responsible to drop the rest yourself; at least that the way it worked for a couple I know of. Small pieces taken from the top down minimize the risk of something dropping in the wrong place, they are trimming not logging.
This post was edited by Jim.ME on 08/21/2021 at 05:48 am.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
If they kept the right of way clear of perennial trees and bushes in the first place it'd never be an issue.
Steve@Advance
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Power company uses contractors here.
They can do some serious butchering!
Couple years ago they were making their way through some upscale neighborhoods, terrible work, needlessly destroying beautiful trees.
It made the news, fights, threats, and guns pointed!
They can do some serious butchering!
Couple years ago they were making their way through some upscale neighborhoods, terrible work, needlessly destroying beautiful trees.
It made the news, fights, threats, and guns pointed!
Determined
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Varies by species around here lots of Aspen trees, cut one down and it sends out shoots.
5 years later there are 50 trees to deal with.
A good arborist can selectively trim branches in a way that will cause the tree to grow out on an angle avoiding the wires and avoiding the problem of the tree numbers increasing.
For years around here you would see bucket trucks parked along the road trimming trees. I don't think they worked very hard at it, didn't move along very far each day. And it seems they were at a little too often. Now, several years ago a lot of oak trees were killed by the gypsy moth infestation we had and these trees are now getting rotten and ready to fall. See any tree crews? NO. Got to wonder what is going on. Seems like they are waiting for the trees to fall so they can now pay a tree crew overtime to cut them off the wires or out of the road and then pay a line crew overtime to put the wires back up. We are supposed to be getting a hurricane tomorrow, we'll see what happens. But these trees can fall at anytime. Already branches have been falling, some of them big. Am in western R.I.
The company's accountants have a huge say in such matters. Back when Tenneco owned the gas line running through the farm the right of way was mowed where there were no crops every year. Then it became every other year and finally as needed. They were going to fence off certain portions of the right of way after losing 5 million dollars in a snowmobile fatality suit against them. Then after figuring the cost versus the need to show a quarterly profit they kicked that can down the road to today. So, we don't know if or when it is going to get done. Too many idiot sled riders going on that right of way to the local watering hole. Another subject for another day.
Stephen Newell
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Oh yea, they don't care what they do to your property they will completely hack up your trees to the point where they would look better if you cut them down. I have a bunch of cedar trees growing under the power lines on the front of my property and when I saw the power company in the neighborhood I bought a pole saw and trimmed my own, giving them some shape. Down the road from me they just chopped the trees in half.
A now deceased neighbor used to be a lineman. He said that they had to come up with busy work or run the risk of getting their job eliminated. A big part of busy work is to keep the pace as slow as possible and not show up back at the shop early even if by a minute. This guy was actually fairly ambitious while on the job and other lineman and associated workers dreaded an assignment involving him.
Bob Bancroft
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- Aurora NY
Power was run through here in 1938. Lines were run through the open fields, rather than along roads because there were less obstructions, shortest possible runs were employed, and since the digging was all by hand, no machinery needed to get anywhere! One line has since been moved out to the road, destroying some beautiful trees in the process. This was only after the line was hit the second time by an airplane. Another branch line still runs across fields.
M-MAN
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- Bostic, NC
Ya'll are lucky. Around here they would have cut a gap for the line and left everything else. Planting trees under the power line isn't smart anyway.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
Nearly all tree trimming around power lines is farmed out to tree trimming companies.
A year ago there was a huge fleet working our area.
Smaller trees under 10 inch diameter truncks directly under lines are cut down at the ground.
Anything up into the wires are trimmed away from wires 8 feet or so.
Every power company has rules as far as what they will pay for where trimming is concerned. Be it contracted out or their own crews doing the work.
Our power company sent every customer a post card notifying us of trimming work in the area.
With a number to call if the crew left any of the trimmings behind more than two weeks. Or did any damage, etc.
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Geo-TH,In
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X2 clear right of way. They did that on west side of property in country. What they cleared was a jungle. Needs cleared every 5 years
And now Duke is getting smarter,
Instead of putting up steel towers in fields, getting owner's permission, endless court battles, and paying, they are putting up large steel poles in right of way to run High Voltage lines. NIMBYs can't object. Instead, they are running power poles it in their front yard in the right of way..not back yard.
And now Duke is getting smarter,
Instead of putting up steel towers in fields, getting owner's permission, endless court battles, and paying, they are putting up large steel poles in right of way to run High Voltage lines. NIMBYs can't object. Instead, they are running power poles it in their front yard in the right of way..not back yard.
showcrop
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Major DRAMA here!!! I'll be that if you guys had ALL of the pertinent information such as the original easement, where the property line and the edge of easement are, What the utlities' actual costs are for doing it one way vs. another, The exact wording of the letter of explanation was that the utility sent to all abutters two months prior to the start of work, what it looks like when the whole job is done vs. just when the limbs up to six inches are cut, most of you would have little to no comment. This is like a wacky Facebook lady in our town, who like so many people, thought that she owned out to the pavement, threw the letter of explanation away, thought that it was a wetland because a culvert came out from under the road where the trees were cut. Actually my terminology is wrong. Drama has been replaced by conspiracy theories. Being informed takes all the fun out of it.
Looking back, would it have been worth spending an extra $500 to have an arborist trim and shape the tree before the power company had to trim it? If not, what's the problem? Either way there are tradeoffs. At least the power company did not charge landowners for trimming trees growing inside their easement.
DoubleO7
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- Crystal River, FL
That picture is the tree that was discovered to be hollow to the base. That you posted in an earlier thread.
How do you know the left behind stuff is from the Duke crew vs the guys hired to take it down completely after words?
Plus, the owner could have or may have called Duke to remove the trimmings.
Or the owner requested they leave the firewood stuff behind.
Perhaps you are jumping to conclusions before the end results?
How do you know the left behind stuff is from the Duke crew vs the guys hired to take it down completely after words?
Plus, the owner could have or may have called Duke to remove the trimmings.
Or the owner requested they leave the firewood stuff behind.
Perhaps you are jumping to conclusions before the end results?
Crazy Horse
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So is it the Duke Energy 2021 Co. on their truck doors or maybe the Duke Arborist Co. 2021? What's the expression, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
I have never had them leave stuff except when they dropped three trees for me that were really stretching the bounds of nuisance trees. They needed to come down and you could see the line from under the trees,and I have know the guy who was in charge since I was in the 6th grade. The only thing they left is what wouldn't fit in the wood chipper. My trees,my yard and I thought that was a good deal. No one want to loose a tree,and no one really wants the power to go out. Cut the trees.
Crazy Horse
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Tree contractors are like barbers. Some are skilled and artisans, others (like my barber) would be better suited pruning trees.
Determined
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Not all plant under power lines.
Try having a mile of well treed road frontage with the power line going down the other side of the road for the past 70 years then the power company decides that when they are rebuilding the old line they want to move it to your side of the road.
While they are at it they try to tell you that once the line is installed 6 inches from your fence line they are going to assume an easement and start cutting down all your trees.
47fivewindow
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- Davidsonville Md.
I contacted our power company and reported this tree on the line. Two weeks later it went boom
MARK ROBKE
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They really don't care about the look of the tree-they are ONLY concerned with the possibility of limbs falling on the wires. Any extra trimming would cost them more money, which they have to pass onto the customer. You want cheap electricity, and that's how you get it. Mark.
Northvale PA
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I just listened to part of a podcast on Accuweather that was pushing the Climate Change causes thunderstorms and big wind in the Detroit area this summer, which in turn causes more power outages than anyone can remember. Eventually they mention trees being the actual thing that takes out the lines. Wind plus trees equals falling branches. I think it was Einstein who told us two things cannot occupy the same space. So, the obvious answer is to ban fossil fuels and pay to put all power lines underground. The trees shall triumph after all.
Determined
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Not a whole lot more to the story other than after several months of back and forth with them they ended up pruning the majority of the trees versus removing them.
They also addressed the issue of all the new growth shoots in the hayfield and pasture that resulted from what trees they had cut down.
Around here when you cut down an Aspen tree they go into survival of the species mode and send shoots out in every direction often resulting in 50+ new trees from cutting down just one.
showcrop
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Are they moving all of the poles to the other side or zig-zagging side to side? Here in NH most roads have trees on both sides for most of the miles. In order to keep the wires out from under the larger limbs the wires run from side to side of the road zig-zagging instead of running straight up either side.
Determined
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About a 6 mile stretch all on one side.
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