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Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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Please don't turn my post into your political rant. I'm sharing what I discovered while looking into investing in Cummins stock, a company in Indiana.

Grand Canyon, Ariz. - The National Park Service (NPS) has purchased six low-floor accessible compressed natural gas (CNG) powered transit buses to be used as part of the visitor transportation system on the South Rim of Grand Canyon National Park

The buses at the Canyon sounded like diesel engines. The bus driver said they were Cummins CNG

Air Products-Cummins plan development, deployment of hydrogen fuel cell trucks
CMIAPDMon, Jul. 26
...Cummins ([[CMI]] -0.6%) are planning to work together to accelerate the integration of hydrogen fuel cell trucks in the Americas, Europe and Asia. Under the memorandum of understanding, Cummins will provide hydrogen fuel cell electric powertrains ...

I never thought of Cummins as being a leader in alternative energy, CNG and Hydrogen.

Cummins engine are sold on the world market.

Hoping someone who works there can add to the story if he is permitted too.
 
Kind of old news Cummins has been talking about this/ showing interest in CNG for a while. I believe there was an article in Diesel Progress magazine I read.
 
Four years ago I rode in a transit buss in the city of Bejin China ran real quit and i saw it was running on electric over head wires. Was not long till the wires stopped and sounds of an engine took over. We ran several more miles. When we stopped I asked the driver and he was really proud to take me back and show. It was a Cummins clone running on compressed natural gas . Long tanks on top[ looked like old water heater tanks. Supposed to be less pollution.
 
Got to go where the future is and it is entirely possible diesels could be outlawed within the next ten to twenty years.
 
THis company has a manufacturing facility making Busses here in St. Cloud MN. Total commitment to the future. All St. Cloud Transit busses are CNG powered New Flyer. Jim
New Flyer
 
I do not mean this as a political rant; But rather should I invest in a company.

The company I work for has about 100 class 8 trucks that run on CNG.
They are equipped with Hexagon Agilitys 175 diesel gallon equivalent ProCab compressed natural gas tanks behind the cab.
The motor is a Cummins-Westports near-zero-emissions natural gas engine.
We use them in Texas and California to pull two 28 foot trailers.

UPS has many more similar trucks they use for the same purpose.

The company signed a contract to buy renewable natural gas (RNG) made from organic waste.
When the RNG is sourced from farm waste, it can produce a negative-carbon footprint and is the cleanest commercial fuel available.

I thought all well and good until I learned the federal government is paying a substantial portion of the new truck cost through grants and kick backs to get big companies to try this new way of thinking.
 
I am not much of an expert on the mon diesel side. When I first started 25 years ago this week I built some k19 natural engines before I went to the ISX program working with your nephew. The gas engines were so nice to work on as the oil was so clean.
Now I spend my days in high horsepower, it's kinda the retirement home.
 
Cummins is also working on a propane gas engine for mid range trucks. The GM LP truck engine has been a disaster,if it is on the engine it breaks. The LP people say that it makes no sense to buy diesel fuel to deliver a truck load of LP fuel. They are backing the plan with a lot of cash.
 
I worked for Kenworth delivering the new trucks to the dealers we delivered CNG trucks to Southern California for use at the docks back in the 90s
 
I work for Cummins also. Worked at same plant as 4520BW for 9 years before transferring to a Cummins Emissions Solutions plant in Wisconsin.

I have no real inside information. But I know that Cummins/Cummins Westport supplies vast majority of the mid-range and heavy duty on-highway natural gas truck engines used in the US. We make the 3-way catalysts used with them here. Cummins has been in that market for many years.

Cummins also makes many high horsepower natural gas engines (up to 91L). During my time in Indiana used to make quite a few natural gas K and QSK19 engines. Numerous different versions. I was the engineer of the production test cells and would test all of them off the assembly line. I have heard they have not made as many in the last few years, though.

Cummins is also invested and researching into battery/electric powertrains as well as fuel cells. For example Blue Bird uses Cummins for their electric school buses (https://www.blue-bird.com/buses/electric-school-buses). Have to be forward thinking to have a future. Hopefully it works out.
 
I'm a novice at investing in ETFs.
I look at dividends, profits paid to share holders, which reflects on company's profits. Some people look at stock growth potential.
I'm looking for a minimum of 9% dividends.
Currently I have 13 different stocks. All total from 13 stocks a 10.9% average rate of return.
So from my non expert point of view I'm doing better in ETF's than being a landlord for 52 years and doing little work. Doing better than 0.25% in pass book savings.
A no buy on by on Cummins for me.
I'm still looking, reading, researching stocks. Become a profitable hobby.
 
Cummins may be the oldest engine builder in the US. I think if anyone can build a different engine design, Cummins can.
 
Federal meddling has severely damaged the light and mid range diesel market creating incentives for manufacturers to investigate other alternatives that are not yet so regulated.

Expect gasoline engines to reappear unless the federales get wind of such efforts.

Dean
 
I have several friends that work at the new pilot center and know some of what they are working on as well as some stuff here a STC but not sure how much I can say about it.
 
Nothing at all wrong with CNG. The world supply of natural gas is, for all practical purposes, inexhaustible even if we doubled the rate of use.
 
I just sold 25 of these Cummins CNG trucks for Anheuser-Busch. Like others have said CNG Cummins have been around for awhile.
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(quoted from post at 20:38:33 08/17/21)
What's new about CNG engines other than Cummins is working on it.
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Nothing, just like the fact they will produce a piece of junk like the QSK 50s we own. They cant write a calibration that will work properly, and the wiring harnesses and Def systems are a disaster. It costs over 50k to put new harnesses on these when they admit they have problems. Oil pressure problems are present as well. It has become evident to us they have no parts stock and no competent techs to service their products. If our industry was not shifting to electric, I would sure be looking at going back to yellow engines, even our old 16v-149s were more reliable. Rant over LOl
 
New Flyer also has a facility in Crookston, MN. Some of the busses assembled there are electric, catenary powered. Have met a few out on their shakedown cruise. Somewhat ironic to see an electric bus towing a genset.
 
(quoted from post at 20:57:05 08/17/21) Federal meddling has severely damaged the light and mid range diesel market creating incentives for manufacturers to investigate other alternatives that are not yet so regulated.

Expect gasoline engines to reappear unless the federales get wind of such efforts.

Dean
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hat makes you think the government isn't fully aware of every effort currently taking place? Taxpayers are subsidizing all of these projects.
 
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