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johnlobb · Jul 30, 2021

Worst ever Allis Chalmers? Keep the stories coming, guys. Great reading!

Richard G. · Jul 30, 2021

I will always hate a G Allis.
I used one thousands of hours planting small grain variety test plots for Clemson all over SC.
No power, weak rear axles, thin tires that would sink in damp spots.

Also, a 185 that I used once and only once for discing.
Roughest riding thing I ever sat on.
Richard in NW SC

Janicholson · Jul 30, 2021

HD-41 Crawler It had weak final drives. Though massive, was tender in some ways. One is located at the Albany MN Pioneer Days location.

rrlund · Jul 30, 2021

My first tractor was a C, but other than that, I don't have much experience with them. Dad had an RC for a short time. I've heard those were underpowered for their size. I think they were WC with a B or C engine weren't they?

A neighbor had two 190s. I always like driving them, but again, hearsay, but they had some rear end or transmission issues didn't they?

NY 986 · Jul 30, 2021

AC was a company that built budget minded products by and large. They filled a niche especially here in the NE. They were never on the level of JD or IH. Mostly small dairies bought their products and got by with them. Gleaner combines always had a market here and when grain prices took off during the 1970;s quite a number of Gleaner combines got sold to farmers that otherwise did not have an AC machine due to the low comparative cost to other brands.

Fritz Maurer · Jul 30, 2021

I like it. Looks like a good candidate for a Marvin Heemeyer replica.

mjsnodgrass · Jul 30, 2021

that is a nice looking machine

hoghollow · Jul 30, 2021

My dad dad bought 3020 diesel new in 1965 and a couple years later purchased Allis 180 diesel The 180 would outwork the 3020 but unhandy to run compared to the 3020. Kept the 180 two years and trader for his first 4020

cdmn · Jul 30, 2021

I was working at Allis Chalmers at the time. I was starting out in the drafting department, so my name may have
been on a drawing, but I seem to remember doing mostly routine drawing revisions. I got to watch the dynamometer testing and also visited the proving grounds where they only had 3 prototypes being given different workouts. I
didn't stay until production started, but I believe they had 8 to 10 years of development and testing. I went into a company with rapid development. We sell our prototypes. It was also called something like concurrent development and production. No time to wait until it was perfect. Go, go, go.

David from Kansas · Jul 30, 2021

Success of a particular brand of equipment seems to have mostly been related to the support from the dealer(s). In the 1950's it seems almost every town had a AC dealer, but lots of them didn't survive. There was a dealer 15 miles north of us that was more interested in selling buicks and pontiacs than farm equipment, they didn't last very long, if I remember correctly, they were also a MM dealer. There was also a dealer 15 miles south of us. I remember buying repairs parts for a side delivery AC rake that my Dad and uncle purchased new, but I don't ever remember him having any equipment in his lot. This dealer also fell by the wayside. Further north of us was a dealer who was very involved and was successful and his dealership lasted until the AC brand went by the wayside. There were quite a few AC tractors and Gleaner combines in that county.

Traditional Farmer · Jul 30, 2021

I'd say the ED 40 was their worst effort.

miangus · Jul 30, 2021

As the coal plants retire there are very few ACs on the system.

old · Jul 30, 2021

Back years ago there was a tractor dealer in Lebanon Mo. The place was Payne tractor which is not longer there but he said he would NEVER had n A/C XT190 on his lot EVER. The XT190 was known for having transmission problem and jumping out of gear

funky_g00 · Jul 30, 2021

As an Allis lover it is hard for me to say they made a bad tractor but quite a few models were known for short comings.
1. Until a few years ago I did not know the ed-40 was ever a production tractor, so not a very in demand tractor.
2. Allis G under powered, weak axles, tractor specific implements, but only rear engine design of the BIG 3 to be produced.
3. RC extremely under powered, but built during the war with limited resources and parts.
4. I've heard certain models for the 7000 and 8000 series tractors were prone for either engine or transmission problems.
5. I think any model that had the Buda diesel engine and/or first generation diesel engine in it had head and antifreeze problems

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