Worst ever?

johnlobb

Well-known Member
What is the worst John Deere tractor ever made? Why? Have you had personal experience with it? Or hearsay? Let's see what you think!
 
I had an early 3010 diesel that was a disaster on wheels, but I think it must have been the fault of the previous owner. No way they could have all been as bad as that one and ever sold more than two of them.

That said, I think the 1010 and 2010 were probably at the top of the list of tractors they never should have made.
 
I've heard that a few people - can you tell us what was wrong with them? I'm not a JD guy so just curious.
 
In the case line I would say the 1690 is the one any case guy would tell you to stay away from. Something about the engine cooling caused no wind to trouble. Although I know of a couple that have been great tractors.
 
I'll wait for somebody with more experience as a Deere mechanic. I just know their reputation was as poor as the Oliver 1250 four cylinder gas, 1450 and 1855 diesel. My brother had a 2010 gas row crop narrow front. Not the worst tractor I ever saw, better than the 3010 diesel that I had, but not as beat up when he bought it.
 
I think that it would have been interesting if JD would not have held on to the notion that 2 cylinders is all you need. If they would have tried some 4 cylinder models in the 50 to 90 horse range in the fifties it would be interesting to see what they were like. As far a worst tractor with the experience that would be a 3010 gas. We rented a farm in the late 70s and the old farmer had one. Since this farm was 10 plus miles away we occasionally used his tractor. Being used to zippy Farmalls that thing was a joke. When I say after you turned around at the end of the field and headed back I am not exaggerating when I say you could count 1 - 1000, 2 - 1000 up to 5 and then the engine would just be getting up to full rpm. I was not impressed. Later I had a buddy with a dairy that had 4 4020s plus other 30 & 40 series larger tractors. When I helped him with some farm work I found out not all Deeres were like that sick 3010.
 
The 1690 was supposed to be bad about spinning bearings on the crank. We had a 1490 that was a pretty good tractor. Ive heard to stay away from the power shift in the Case DB tractors. Tony
 
Indeed, RE: the H. Even 3 extra horses would have bridged it's shortcomings pretty well
However, there is no denying it's as cute as a bugs ear.

Fr. Bob
 
There was a recent discussion on the Deere forum about this. Here's a link. Some of the most die hard Deere fans are no fan of the 1010 and 2010.
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Pa had a 4230 with many injector, engine problems. I had a well cared for 4230 that engine was completely wore out at 7000 hrs. And of course they had the socp in the cab. So I would rate the 4230 as one of the worst.
 
I've only had one. It was a 2210 I bought it new and the dealer nor John Deere cared it was defective. I took it back to the dealer twice and they would just let it sit on the lot and not work on it. I tried twice to contact the company and was told twice to take it back to the dealer where I bought it. The front loader had a hydraulic leak and something was wrong with the transmission where it made a loud popping noise when you drive it. I ended up having to give it back to them. I won't buy a JD tractor again new or used.
 
The sound gard body had em all best until case ih and
everyone else tried to copy the cab on the 8000 series
 
Ive got a JD 5103 made in India. I need a couple parts. J D says it might be next year before I can get them.
 
Transmission issues plague our 4230, its not high on the list of my favorite tractors.
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neighbor had a 1010 that I was less than impressed by, gutless little thing
Growing up we had an A B G 720 and 730. The 730 was a pony start diesel and after running that thing I will never buy another with the pony...
 
I have both CaseIH and John Deere tractors with cabs. A 2011 Case IH and a 2016 John Deere. Same size tractors. Same horsepower. If you looked at the Nebraska tests you wouldn't know which one was which. The John Deere cab is about 100 times quieter than the Case IH. I wear earplugs if I'm going to put in a long day with the CaseIH. With the John Deere, the only way I know that the engine is running is to look at the tachometer. It's like a car.
 
I would say my 4230 is the best little tractor on the farm. I rebuilt it at 9900 hrs. This tractor spent may springs lugging g a 750 drill around.
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The R diesel has to be REAL close to the worst. BIG NOISEY AWKWARD thing, huge for only being able to pull a 3 bottom plow! Hit any kind of hill and it drops rpm fast, Have to tun the Live pto to get the Live hydraulic. Brake pedals are about 6 feet apart, almost behind the seat. The hand clutch and throttle lever were so long I had to stand up to use them, I was only 10 years old that spring. The 2 cylinder Pony engine was way too small to spin the diesel with any authority, especially if it was below 30-35 degrees. And who thought 11 miles per hour was a ROAD GEAR?
Dad sold the thing with 16 acres left to plow, was still April. Township road commissioner bought it to drag roads and help tear up scarified roads with a 4-5 ft heavy-duty rototiller. The PTO was so weak he tore the pto out every spring for three years and the new road commissioner realized was a piece of junk it really was and traded it for an Oliver 770 diesel that I was still using to rototill and drag TEN years later. You could NOT lug an R down, no center main bearing like EVERY other 2 cylinder diesel and the crankshafts were known to break.
I thought those days spring of '64 would be the worst I'd ever have to tolerate but about spring of '73 my Boss had me rotary hoe 80 acres of beans with a #60 John Deere, 6-30 rows, the hoe was set-up for 6-30's, that thing popped and knocked, and rattled all day till almost dark hoeing those beans in 4th gear. He owned a 4320, 3 4020's, I don't think he had the 4230 till the next year.
 
My dad bought a 4020 brand new, must have been the worst one out there! Between oil leaks and hard starting and falling apart from new! He didn't get 100 hours on it and the rocker came loose! Sure makes him cuss about what he hears as the best John Deere ever made!
 
The H John Deere was a very popular tractor in the middle Georgia area here where I live. It was the main choice of many small farmers as a main tractor and it was a handy small tractor on the big farms. It was highly favored for 2 row planting and especially cultivating of cotton, corn and peanuts crops here in the 1950.s I grew up working in my father's shop and we found that slipping a large o ring on the axle before the brake drum helped somewhat with the oil in the brake problem. There are a few still on farms around here being used.
 
And all the that the R was still better to operate and more ergonomic than a 560 ih or any other international for that matter
 
Had a brand new fiat cnh tractor that after 5 years the dealer never could find the one fuel filter it went to auction with that filter never getting changed . The dealer said well its a Mexican built tractor huh so you just dont sell parts for the cheap junk you sell
 
If that 60 was like that it needed the repair shop as not normall. And the first R I ever saw was at a plowing match pulling 4-14 plows with no problems.
 
What were you compairing that 1010 to? the A? late model had a bit mower power, early A less pwoer?, The g , 720 qnd 730 were all in different class than the 1010 that was just a utility tractor and not for heavy field work. And all I ever had were A and B tractors.
 
You seem a little too over whelmed over your poor deeres! They are just a brand and they all have problems, even deeres ended up in the bone yard!
 

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