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An alternative method

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SVcummins

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To seat beads . Barney approved
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It really works pretty good. The cheap ether just wont pop em
not enough ether in it to do the job . The strap could pop you
in the kisser if you werent real careful when you let it go
though
 
2 different times i have stopped for gas and observed a delivery truck drivers struggling to air up their tubeless 2 wheel dolly.
They were both amazed how my little 1 inch ratchet strap improved their situation.
 
I've tried that with little to no success. Easier yet is that Murphy mounting grease. Wit tire on rim/wheel put Murphy's around the bead and start air. Wipe off excess as it fills with air. Will not use much for the job and can reuse it if not let get in the dirt. I've used it on everything from car tires to rear tractor tires. Bought an 8 pound pail of it a couple years ago for the rear tires on the combine when we changed them and still is over 3/4 full. Squeezes most of it back out as the beads seat. It's the same stuff they use to lub tires as they mount them too.
 
SV,

Your method works. Been using it for years. Seat the bead, then let the air out of the tire before you release the ratchet if you don't want the ratchet to smack your hand.. It hurts. Ask me how I know?
 
Years ago (maybe nearly 60) I learned to tie a rope around the perimeter then use a bar to keep twisting and turning.

John T
 
I have done a variation of that along with a hundred other methods.

My preferred method if time allows is to spread the beads apart and let it sit in a warm place overnight.

You can put a tube in the tire (not on a rim) and inflate it to spread the beads apart or cut some pieces of 2x4 and use them to spread it.

By morning they hold their shape and seat great.
 
They have changed it so it doesnt pop like it used to . Case Ih used to have good ether as well but i havent seen it for a long time
 
As many tires as you apparently muck around with you need a "bead cheetah".

The generic ones now on the market are reasonably priced and simply end bead seating issues.

With a "cheetah" you can have the tire aired up and ready to go before you would even get the ratchet strap untangled and straightened out to even BEGIN to try to get it centered on the tire and centered on the tread.

This post was edited by wore out on 07/10/2021 at 11:33 am.
 
(quoted from post at 05:52:54 07/10/21) Years ago (maybe nearly 60) I learned to tie a rope around the perimeter then use a bar to keep twisting and turning.

John T
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That is what my dad used way back when....
 
(quoted from post at 09:10:31 07/10/21) They have changed it so it doesnt pop like it used to . Case Ih used to have good ether as well but i havent seen it for a long time
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Pyroil ether sucks, Harvest King is pretty good yet.
 
I like ether. The ether with oil doesn't work! Spray a shot in the tire, spray a fuse on the sidewall, drop a match and wump, you're done! Sometimes you have to kick the sidewall open to let the fire inside. Then hit it with the air hose quick, because sometimes when the gas cools, it will suck the bead back off. A tractor tire will take a little bigger shot of ether. I heard if one guy that was using the ether with oil and he set the tire on fire!
 
Ive had to hook the hose to it ether then light it to get em to go sometimes . When its hot like this theyll pop pretty good but when its not they wont
 
I just got through doing one I had squeeze pretty hard when I let the strap go it was like a gun shot
 
I bought two cans of harvest king only 20 percent ether it
wouldnt do anything but light the tire on fire . Tried map gas
and that wouldnt pop either
 
These were already mounted but they will fall off the bead
when they go flat just sitting around .
 
I have tried chain hoist many times but never got it to work.

I think I never had a small chain hoist available at the time. And the body of a big chain hoist made such a pucker and ripple in the tire and bead that It just made it worse. Same with cable come along. Body is too big. I think that is why the rachet strap works so well, small body and no pucker wrinkle
 
SVcummins,I used to have one that was a red strap,you would strap it around the tire then tighten it up then air it up kinda like a tube.It worked good.
Also had a new golf cart tire that I couldn't get to seal and take air
so tried the ether trick.This was back when ether was good stuff.It pops on and put so much pressure in the tire it ripped it open around the center of the tread.With a BOOM!
 
(quoted from post at 02:24:56 07/11/21) SVcummins,I used to have one that was a red strap,you would strap it around the tire then tighten it up then air it up kinda like a tube.It worked good.
Also had a new golf cart tire that I couldn't get to seal and take air
so tried the ether trick.This was back when ether was good stuff.It pops on and put so much pressure in the tire it ripped it open around the center of the tread.With a BOOM!
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Den, I remember them from probably thirty years ago!
 
If y'all would notice, this tire and wheel combo are not lock bead rim. They are not even old style flat bead rim. They are tapered mobile home transport rim and tire. A kind of unique setup that allows for a very strong sidewall, and bead area to support very heavy loads.

Ether, and other blow up methods won't work, because once the blow happens, the tire will just fall right back off. Need to exert continuous expansive pressure. Even the Coats tire inflators usually don't work as the sidewalls are so heavy they won't expand as it's inflated.

The strap method works all the time. Once the tire gets a bit of air in it, loosen the strap as inflating.
 
They must make different batches, 'cause the Harvest King ether I have won't get it done but the Pyroil will.

Guy at the tire store was telling me about a guy came in with no eyebrows..had tried some cheap ether to seat a tire, must
have still been some flames inside the tire when he hit it with the good ether...

Fred
 
I've found removing the valve core before hitting it with the ether lets enough air back in that it doesn't suck the tire back off the rim. At least on the 15-16 inch tires I've tried it on, nothing big.

Fred
 
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