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Massachusetts' recently passed right to repair referend

Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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When I read this article I remember some discussion about Proprietary tools and restrictive user agreements keep farmers from fixing their own machines.

Is it still true that some farm equipment farmers can't buy parts or tools to fix your own tractors??
Right to repair article
 
Horses; Mules; and anything built in the 1990's does not fall under this right to repair info from the manufacture.
Yet you bought the new car/truck/tractor anyway.

Isn't that like buying a house next to a airport because it is cheaper than others and then complaining about the noise.
Or moving to the country for the fresh air and quite then complaining about the smell of the neighbors cows.

I really think the government is going about this right to repair all wrong.
Rather than make laws that force a manufacture to release copyrighted material what they should be doing is making a law that the salesman needs to disclose at the time of sale that any repairs to this car/truck/tractor will need to be done at the dealers location. Aftermarket shops will not be able to repair this vehicle.
When it hurts sales of new vehicles because people just walk out and decide to keep their old vehicle then maybe the manufacture might rethink how it is going to handle this situation.
 
Or they could require manufacturers to forgo a bill of sale and furnish a truthful rental agreement in its place.
 
I don't live in Massachusetts but my solution is I have a policy I won't buy any car or equipment made in the 21st century. If more people did that the manufacturers would change their tune.
 
Reminds me of Henry when he told congress he would sell his car at $2 over manufacturing cost if the people were only allowed to buy parts from him.
They declined his generous offer.
Now Congress has mandated that the data stream/codes available on the diag link are a set certain amount. Then the dealer has proprietary codes it can spit out followed up by restricted repair info.
BMW and VW come to mind real fast.
People buying a new car generally don't think about repairs or maintenance.
 
Just looked up transmission parts for a John Deere 9620rx I can buy em . Probably cant diagnose the controllers without a million dollars worth of computers but hard parts I can get .
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They can buy the parts and tools. What they will not buy is the training and the knowledge needed to use those tools. Even the dealers struggle with that part. If you think the dealers magic laptop plugs in and pops up a list of parts that need changing, you would be mis led. There is a lot of experience needed to diagnose these systems correctly.
 
Learned that on a dead New Holland ts115 had to drag it off the semi from the assembly plant . The laptop would give you idea but it wouldnt tell you where on the pos the part was
 
Independent automotive repair shops can purchase the info, equipment, and tools ( both physical and electronic) to make dealer level repairs and diagnostics. The economics of making those purchases arent always logical.
 
Years ago, the local I-H dealer told the mining company I worked for that he could give them the trucks and still be making money on the parts.
 
All OE service information and tools are available, for a price. These are all for profit companies after all. I am friends with a John Deere service manager responsible for several stores. I have talked to him about this right to repair stuff. He just laughs and says 2 things: 1- People don't want to pay for it, and 2- They don't know what to do with it when they have it. He said they have some BTOs that have purchased subscriptions to JD service information. He said it just creates other issues with their guys calling constantly asking for interpretations of terms and parts they don't understand.
 
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