PTO tiller?

Winchester1 · May 31, 2021

Beginning to look at a PTO tiller for a 45 HP tractor. King Kutter has excellent advertising, claimed to be all gear drive but is sold in
big box farm stores. No parts or service support.
Bush Hog is a well known name, typically sold at farm tractor dealers but I don't know much about them.
Anybody have thoughts on these or orher makes?
Thanks,
Bill.

matthies · May 31, 2021

Just mounted a king cutter for a friend, was a 4 footer, tines were like new but didn't hang down much more than the gearcases, which limits the depth, took twice as many passes that it should have.

Janicholson · May 31, 2021

The tractor speed at full PTO rpm is critical. Bush Hog has a good reputation as does King Cutter. Different price points, but comparable. Jim
one comparison to start your research.

Traditional Farmer · May 31, 2021

I have 2 king Kutter tillers one is 20 years old both have been great,you can get any part you need from KK or ebay.

charlie n · May 31, 2021

Had this about a year. $300 more than a KK. Parts support was worth the extra money. Good Luck.

marloweg · May 31, 2021

have a KK that is 20+ years old have bet the h out of it [stones] never needed any parts it is dented all over

DoubleR · May 31, 2021

I have a 7ft Brush Hog and a 4 ft King Cutter. I do some commercial work with them and have been happy with both.

wingnuttx · May 31, 2021

Winchester1...... I can't say if they sell Terre Force in your area but I've had real good luck with this all gear drive tiller. 3 year old picture. Only thing I replaced was 2 tines. Got a lil' to close to a big oak and got a grip on a root. About ready to change the gear oil for first time. Great support. Good luck. Wingnut

Steve in VA · Jun 1, 2021

I've had good service from my 72 Woods. I would prefer a counter rotation but it gets the job done.

Tx Jim · Jun 1, 2021

(quoted from post at 22:22:14 05/31/21) I have 2 king Kutter tillers one is 20 years old both have been great,you can get any part you need from KK or ebay.

I also owned a King Kutter tiller for over 20 yrs. Only parts I've needed were tines(knives) because old tines were worn to a tiny point.

WESnIL · Jun 1, 2021

I have owned a 35 series Land Pride in the past and would go that same route again. Their 35 series has a 19 inch diameter rotor which allows for deeper tilling. If possible, get one wide enough to cover our rear tire tracks.

dcarp · Jun 1, 2021

Ive had a 5 Bush Hog tiller for 25 yrs. never had a problem with it. Tilled a garden for a friend and picked up a 10 piece of rebar. Slip clutch worked as it should, but still took a hour to cut the circles of rebar out of the tiller. That was close to 20 yrs ago.

Traditional Farmer · Jun 1, 2021

That is a good thing about KK tillers the tines angle 90 degrees so they can be totally worn down and still do a good job.On some tillers the tines are at about a 45 degree angle and once the tines get worn some they don't completely till all the ground.

bc · Jun 1, 2021

Looked at the comparison Jim supplied. Seems like max depth on most is about 6" with one at 7" and the King Kutter at 8". I have this idea in my head that I'd want to turn at least 12" on a garden which may or may not be right. Guess I still want to find a 3 point plow and then a tiller would be nice to pulverize the clay.

sandcastle1 · Jun 1, 2021

Winchester1, I have a Kioti, it is gear drive counter rotating, I picked it up back in March. It tilled to about 7 inches which is about all I wanted, 6 would have been fine. So far so good, the Kioti/New Holland dealer in town has been there for decades, lots of Kioti items around here. I also have a rotary mower from that dealership that I bought a couple of years ago. Both pieces seem to be well made. I had been looking at used ones but was not really seeing any good deals, decided to go with new because I did not want someone else's worn out stuff that I then needed to fix. Good luck in your search.

jacksun65 · Jun 1, 2021

I have a king Kutter 5ft and it has been real good. I have clay like soil so it works hard.

WNYBill · Jun 1, 2021

We have a KK from TS. Wish it had a larger diameter tines so it would till deeper. We have rocky clay soil and have found everything works better if we bottom plow first, then once over with the tiller and once over with the cultimulcher makes a nice seed bed. The fewer trips over the ground means less compacting. Our 50hp compact has a super slow range and going slow is the secret.

DR. EVIL · Jun 1, 2021

The township road commissioner I worked for scarified our oiled dirt roads and graded all the big chunks into a windrow and rototilled it with a 5 ft pto driven rototiller. It was old when I worked for him in the mid-1970's, They had that rototiller a long time by then. It KNOCKED the PTO out of the Deere R diesel Dad sold the road commissioner, not just once, but THREE TIMES in the mid-1960's, once a year like clockwork, 3rd time the R disappeared and was replaced with an Oliver 77 diesel, which 10 years later was still running fine.
I can't think of the name of that rototiller, but would know it if I heard it. Talk about abusive jobs! More than the R could handle! A good FARMALL M could have run the rototiller but the R couldn't. The 6 weeks we ran the R the only reason we ran the pto was to get The LIVE HYDRAULICS that only worked with the pto on.
Running rototillers on garden tractors I've seen them hit root clumps of big Canadian Thistles, corn root clumps, etc and pick the entire back end of the garden tractor off the ground and walk it 3-4, even 5 ft forward. A tractor with a really slow creeper gear or a hydro able to just move along fractions of an inch would work best.

jddrawbar · Jun 1, 2021

You found a very sick R! I still have a '51 & '53.....'53 has pulled a '15 batwing for yrs. Farmed into the late 70's with them, used the pto's to run grain carts w/o the first problem.

Traditional Farmer · Jun 1, 2021

They needed a Seaman tractor with one of those huge tillers.

Traditional Farmer · Jun 1, 2021

That is what I do rip it with an old JD ripper about a foot or so deep then tiller over once to get a nice seed bed,too much tilling destroys the structure of the soil turns it into powder.

Winchester1 · Jun 1, 2021

Thanks to everyone for their input. Looks like I'm torn between King Kutter and Bush Hog. Really don't need until next year but you never know when one will pop up. I'll visit the Bush Hog dealer too, they might cut me a deal if they have any left over from this year's selling seasson.

bc · Jun 2, 2021

(quoted from post at 06:54:12 06/01/21)

I had been looking at used ones but was not really seeing any good deals, decided to go with new because I did not want someone else's worn out stuff that I then needed to fix. Good luck in your search.

Sounds like about everything I've bot at auction lately. They were selling it for a reason. Everything turned into a welder's dream or welder's nightmare with an emphasis on the nightmare (depending upon how much the welder is being paid and I get nothing).

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