A Hoarder's Rust Farm

RedMF40

Well-known Member
I was too late for the sale, but they said go ahead take your photos. Everyone's just loading out.

Stuff has been parked around the place and in the woods for years.

My favorite items:

Ford F350 Stake Body (It's the one thing I thought would make a nice restoration project. Nothing unusual about it, I just always liked that body style. Would make a sharp little hauler.
Massey 65
Outhouse

Uploads are slow, will try to add more pics another time.

Gerrit


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Why is it if somebody happens to have more than one or two of something they are a hoarder? I guess cause my family has a few hundred acres and a dozen tractors we are land and tractor hoarders. Looks more to me like when this guy was done with something it was just left where he parked it. I would not call that hoarding. To me hoarding would be if I had or was working on having to excess of some item or items. I see people with plenty of saved things stored away for later times or uses. If I could afford to I would pursue buying up enough fertilizer for a couple of years use since it is getting hard to get apparently. According to the guy I get fertilizer from.
 

Hey Gerrit,,I agree with you on the stakebed Ford,,,,it's a 65 or a 66 ain't it? I'm always TOO many hundred miles from these great sales,,,Looks like the 57 Chevy still has the engine with a 4 barrel. If if was a 2 door HDTP,,I'd be real excited,,,,?
 
Hoarding is the trendy term some people like to throw out there these days about people that don't conform to their imagined number of whatever a person should own.Then same people turn around cry/complain about someone that sends a few loads of old tractors and vehicles to the scrapyard.My opinion is if its not my place and its not my money then its really none of my business what someone else chooses to own or not own.
 


Shame on you RedMF40!!!! You have failed to adequately contemplate every word of your post. You can't be thinking of YT as a local coffee shop with a few friends sitting around casually shooting the breeze. This is the BIG TIME!!! your words go out to the whole world. You have to be proper in everything that you put down here! You can't just use the first word that pops into your head, you have to consider each word carefully, being constantly aware that the wrong word can deeply hurt people. Until you can get this problem sorted out I am assigning you to formulate all of your posts in a word document, then leave it for an hour, then come back to it and give it an adequate amount of study and introspection. Then and only then can you cut it and paste it onto YT. SHAME ON YOU!!!
 
(quoted from post at 03:21:44 05/16/21) Hoarding is the trendy term some people like to throw out there these days about people that don't conform to their imagined number of whatever a person should own.Then same people turn around cry/complain about someone that sends a few loads of old tractors and vehicles to the scrapyard.My opinion is if its not my place and its not my money then its really none of my business what someone else chooses to own or not own.

I dont know if hoarding is a trendy term or not but in this case its accurate. The locals I talked to at the sale told me the man, now deceased, would buy up things in good condition then park them. The Chevy in the woods is one example. Was in good running condition when he left it there. Seems like Ive hit a raw nerve with this hoarding description . Wonder why that may be?

Gerrit
 
(quoted from post at 02:48:53 05/16/21)
Hey Gerrit,,I agree with you on the stakebed Ford,,,,it's a 65 or a 66 ain't it? I'm always TOO many hundred miles from these great sales,,,Looks like the 57 Chevy still has the engine with a 4 barrel. If if was a 2 door HDTP,,I'd be real excited,,,,?

Yes, it's within those years. Had a few F100s with that body style but never a bigger truck with the dually rears. I wouldn't have bought it but I wish I was at the sale to see what it went for. The Allis tractor sold for $100.

Gerrit
 
(quoted from post at 03:32:56 05/16/21)

Until you can get this problem sorted out I am assigning you to formulate all of your posts in a word document, then leave it for an hour, then come back to it and give it an adequate amount of study and introspection. Then and only then can you cut it and paste it onto YT. SHAME ON YOU!!!

Looks like our Sunday is off to a lively start hahahahaha! You're welcome!

Gerrit
 
Yep, If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it's probably HOARDING.

I'll admit, I'm guilty.

Have a great collecting day. Larry
 
Great photos, Gerrit!

Some years ago, we attended two sales like that. Two sales a year apart in the same neighborhood - turned out to be two hoarder brothers who lived about a 1/4 mile apart... both were really fun (never bought a thing - just took a lot of pics).
 
Oh, and my dad was a hoarder... so I know of what I speak. :)
He kept his stuff contained within the buildings though.
 
If you neglected an animal local officials will
step in, take them to a shelter for proper care.

When I see old neglected tractors, barns, and
houses, I wish someone would step in, take them
away from the owner and give them proper care.
 

"A Hoarder's Rust Farm". There you go making fun of my place. My wife would agree with you though. I would like the old 57 chevy. Just like the one I had except it was painted and ran. Could drive up under a tree and pull the engine in 30 minutes.
 
The MF 65 must of been one of the last things parked. A 65 was the first new tractor I ever drove. Uncle bought it in the fall of 57 and I was 13 years old. It must of been one of the first. A 13 year old was not interested in the serial number just
the new paint.
 
Distant Relatives had a 200 acre wooded farm just full of old vehicles and farm equipment, they never threw
anything away, including an old school bus full of newspapers. We used to have our family reunions there, it
was quite the adventure. An Indian casino now sits on that property in New Buffalo, Michigan.
 
IDEM, Indiana department of environmental Management stepped in and gave farmer 30 days to clean up his mess of old tractors, trucks, semi load of old tires and farm equipment with an engine. IDEM said if it has a motor it needs to run and move.

IDEM gave a person a 30 day notice to clean up cars in his yard. 30 days later IDEM removed the cars. Man was issed when he returned from spending winter in Florida to find his old cars gone.
 
Well maybe that is because the term is so misused. I don't see hoarding, and stock for prepared living as anything close to the same thing. We have a few iron piles that have not been scraped out in over 50 years. No it is not pretty but sure does supply a lot of parts for different jobs over the years. The iron changes as things change. SO I suppose canning and storing garden staples for winter is hoarding buy your definition. I just call it being prepared for winter or use after that if needed rather than worrying about no gas for a few days or if the one tractor doesn't start and I have hay down I can just go get a different one. Yup we do have a few that are not in running condition we could either fix or part out for a couple other tractors too. SO I suppose that is hoarding too. I don't it sucks to be you. As for the state coming in and removing property from private land is none of their business what the guy has. I'd be ------ too. IF i had to put up with state over reach like that I'd probably leave that state. Yes I've considered leaving where I am to someplace else. And under the new bolshevik regime It might be better in Russia.
 
I have a Ford 1 ton like that and even the same color. It has 89,898 miles on it and that is it. It was a conservation truck for the state of MO.
 
(quoted from post at 06:42:20 05/16/21) [b:f9766a2950] SO I suppose canning and storing garden staples for winter is hoarding buy your definition.[/b:f9766a2950]

Could you point out where I gave a definition of hoarding?

Gerrit
 
George, how far was this farmer away from any metropolitan area say larger than 20,000 population? If no major metro within 5 miles I would be packing up and moving out of Indiana, that is just way to over regulating in my book. Maybe having an oil sheen running down the ditch after a rain would be my only way to give a state justification for that.
 
About 5 miles from town.
The distance isn't the problem.
IDEM probably got a call from a person who got tired of seeing the mess.
Our county has code enforcement. They only respond if someone calls in and complains.
That said, the neighbor across the lake for us got a visit too. He was given 30 days.

About the same time I saw foot prints in the snow going down into the gravel pit to a MH frame. The guy turned around and went back up the hill to his car. Only way that frame could be seen is from the air.
Makes you wonder if someone from the county isn't using Beacon looking closely at aerial pics of property for structures not on taxes.

Sooner or later other states may catch up to Indiana as far as regulations go. What you can and can't do with your property.
 
(quoted from post at 18:08:17 05/16/21) About 5 miles from town.
The distance isn't the problem.
IDEM probably got a call from a person who got tired of seeing the mess.
Our county has code enforcement. They only respond if someone calls in and complains.
That said, the neighbor across the lake for us got a visit too. He was given 30 days.

About the same time I saw foot prints in the snow going down into the gravel pit to a MH frame. The guy turned around and went back up the hill to his car. Only way that frame could be seen is from the air.
Makes you wonder if someone from the county isn't using Beacon looking closely at aerial pics of property for structures not on taxes.

Sooner or later other states may catch up to Indiana as far as regulations go. What you can and can't do with your property.

I would think IDEM would be the one going after environmental violations, not just unlicensed junk yards. Unless it is in an unincorporated area without it's own codes to enforce.

I do not know if our county in Florida uses beacon or some something similar. But I do know as fact that this county hires private planes to circle overhead a few hundred feet and take several ariel photos of your property in winter every five years.
They are looking for structure differences compared to prior years.
If the see something new, they go see if building permits have been issued. If not, they come knocking on your door for a look see.
 
Gerrit you refer to hoarding rust with pictures. No you did not give a definition of hoarding. Though you show several pictures with all one of items. Not multiple items of the same thing. I would consider hoarding to be large quantities of a few items or several items but at least large quantities or volumes of items be hoarding. And I don't consider a junkyard hoarding since it moves through and is brought in by people for use as parts or supplies. I gather by your definition any quantity more than a few days supply or more than a couple extra parts is hoarding. I just can't see it that way for that small a quantity.
 
. [b:7131b01d0b]Though you show several pictures with all one of items. Not multiple items of the same thing. I would consider hoarding to be large quantities of a few items or several items but at least large quantities or volumes of items be hoarding.[/b:7131b01d0b]

No, that's not what hoarding is. If you have 25 JD trip bucket loaders it doesn't mean you're a hoarder. The term is often misused. It sounds like this is hitting a bit too close to home for you but I doubt you're a hoarder if you're using the things you set aside and you don't get tripped up every time you walk out the front door because there's a lawnmower or old plow or whatever in your path, along with a lot of other things.


This is from the Mayo Clinic, a respected medical facility in Minnesota.

Hoarding disorder is a persistent difficulty discarding or parting with possessions because of a perceived need to save them. A person with hoarding disorder experiences distress at the thought of getting rid of the items. Excessive accumulation of items, regardless of actual value, occurs.

Hoarding often creates such cramped living conditions that homes may be filled to capacity, with only narrow pathways winding through stacks of clutter. Countertops, sinks, stoves, desks, stairways and virtually all other surfaces are usually piled with stuff. And when there's no more room inside, the clutter may spread to the garage, vehicles, yard and other storage facilities.

Hoarding ranges from mild to severe. In some cases, hoarding may not have much impact on your life, while in other cases it seriously affects your functioning on a daily basis.

People with hoarding disorder may not see it as a problem, making treatment challenging. But intensive treatment can help people with hoarding disorder understand how their beliefs and behaviors can be changed so that they can live safer, more enjoyable lives.
 

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