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Bruce from Can.

Bruce from Can.

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The thread about when to change trucks, buy new
or used really became the contentious issue. Many
stated that no one can afford to buy new anymore.
So I did a search .All of these trucks are priced in
Canadian dollars, as thats where I am. And all
these trucks are basic V8 regular cab 4x4 trucks.
No fancy options, like heated seats or remote start.
Just basic work truck. Ford F150 $37,950.00
Dodge 1500 $ 32,500.00 and GMC Sierra
$34,000.00. Yes these are just basic 4x4 trucks,
and you can pay as much as 100 Grand for a truck
if you want to get them all tricked out. And
remember these are Canadian prices, so with the
American dollar being worth 30 cents more, it
should almost stand to reason that these very same
trucks should be available in the USA for a lesser
number of Green backs. Every thing we buy in
Canada cost on average 20% more because of the
exchange rate.
 
You can get a nice, new 4x4 truck mid 30s. Even cheaper if you dont want 4 wheel drive. Im not sure what diesel would add.
 
Ive been checking prices in the last week. What you post is pretty much in line with what I see given the exchange rate. GM got rid of their regular cab full sized model a few years ago so there is nothing under 30,000 dollars from what I see. If predictions come to be in terms of 5 dollar gas in the next two years I probably will buy a Toyota Corolla for its fuel economy and make the current truck run for chores until it fully rusts out. Too many nooks and crevices in my 2006 Chevy for the home rust prevention treatment to work indefinitely. Just a few years ago the shop that did my inspection remarked how clean my truck was but as of this year it has seen too many salt filled winters.
 
GM hasnt gotten rid of there regular cab trucks at all. Its just that the dealerships dont like to order them in, cause they can make more $$ selling a extended cab or 4 door truck. They still make them. And the regular cab trucks are starting to show up on dealer lots here. Good value savings if you dont need the back seat.
 
Mid 30's from what I see will get you a 4 cylinder engine at least in the Chevy Silverado 1500. There is a multiple of ways to package a truck so it can be difficult to
do a direct comparison on a truck. Looks to me if you want at least a 5.3L V8 it will put you over 40,000 dollars. Anybody out there running a current edition GM 4
cylinder full sized PU?
 
Dealer site shows the 2.7L in the 1500 albeit a crew cab. A little searching shows that you are correct with the regular cab still being made. Looks like a salesperson has not been truthful with me.
 
I bought a new 2019 F150 with a regular cab and 8' box. Every dealer advertised one on their web page but only a couple actually had one on the lot. It didn't have many options - front end collision, back up camera, 6 cylinder engine, air conditioning and a radio. Its got manual door looks and windows. It has everything for towing except a brake controller which I had added. I would have liked cruse control but it doesn't have it. After rebates and putting on 8% sales tax I paid just under $30,000. Its a good truck for what I need and I didn't pay for a lot of frills. Around here a $75000 truck rusts just as fast as a $30000 truck so unless you need a lot more truck why bother.
 
I'm sorry that I missed you stating regular cab in your post. I jumped ahead when I should not have.
 
You can go to Ford, Gm or GMC and build any truck, regulator, extended cab or 4 foor. Select your options and get a price.
What they stopped selling in 2007 is the classic. low rider. No ladder need. I need low truck to get to tool boxes
toolboxes and back of truck

For me, money isn't the issue. No way could I get onto jacked up 4x4.

I love low rider trucks and higher cars. My crossover SUV xt5 fits my back perfectly.
So does my classic. I want comfort and a truck that meets my needs.

George
 
Bruce,

You are pretty much in line with my checks. I'm one of the few on this site that actually buys a new truck. Like others have said you will more than likely have to order your "plain Jane" truck because Dealers do not want to stock them on the lot.

To avoid the pillory, I won't say have many new trucks I have had in my miserable life......

Larry
 
(quoted from post at 14:49:05 03/03/21) The thread about when to change trucks, buy new
or used really became the contentious issue. Many
stated that no one can afford to buy new anymore.
So I did a search .All of these trucks are priced in
Canadian dollars, as thats where I am. And all
these trucks are basic V8 regular cab 4x4 trucks.
No fancy options, like heated seats or remote start.
Just basic work truck. Ford F150 $37,950.00
Dodge 1500 $ 32,500.00 and GMC Sierra
$34,000.00. Yes these are just basic 4x4 trucks,
and you can pay as much as 100 Grand for a truck
if you want to get them all tricked out. And
remember these are Canadian prices, so with the
American dollar being worth 30 cents more, it
should almost stand to reason that these very same
trucks should be available in the USA for a lesser
number of Green backs. Every thing we buy in
Canada cost on average 20% more because of the
exchange rate.
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Which is within the boundaries of what I said- $35-45K for a pretty basic pickup. Most people up here buying a truck are going to go for 4wd and a extended cab, if not a crew cab. Once you add that in, and consider 99.9% of the people are going to take whats on the lot at one place or another and not special order in a truck, then you're looking at something with more bells and whistles and the average cost is going to be higher. No one on the NY/Ontario border really needs A/C, but try finding a car on a lot without it these days. Yes, you can get a single cab, plain jane 4wd 3/4 ton truck for under $30K. We just did it in my town, but it's through the municipal govt pricing, not something any regular consumer can get.

And no, everything doesn't cost more in Canada because of the exchange rate. It costs more because of the value of the Loonie, GST, PST and all the added costs from your style of govt and the costs that go with it. That's not a good or bad thing and I'm not trashing Canada at all. It's just a lot more accurate than just saying it's because of the exchange rate.
 
If it was just the initial cost it'd be one thing but in VA there is a personal property tax 5% of value annually on vehicles which add up pretty quick,
goes down with the value of the vehicle.Plus collision insurance rates are based on value.We bought a 06 Toyota pickup double cab,right many options,80,000 miles about 1 1/2 years ago for $14,000,a new one like it, we checked would run about $40,000.I'm just as happy driving it and real happy still having the difference in cash in hand and saving on the taxes and insurance.Its been trouble free so far.Its all in what a person wants to spend their money on.
 
Eight years ago, I paid $3500 for a 2000 Chevy Silverado extended cab 4x4 with all of the options.

It's always done everything I wanted it to do and left me money for other investments.

I've always wondered how many people would buy $40,000 worth of a particular common stock if they knew for a fact it would be worth 2/3 of that in two or three years.

Just sayin'.
 
(quoted from post at 17:31:53 03/03/21) Eight years ago, I paid $3500 for a 2000 Chevy Silverado extended cab 4x4 with all of the options.

It's always done everything I wanted it to do and left me money for other investments.

I've always wondered how many people would buy $40,000 worth of a particular common stock if they knew for a fact it would be worth 2/3 of that in two or three years.

Just sayin'.
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BINGO! Post of the year nominee right there!
 

Dodge does offer a 8" bed in the classic model

These are the prices I got looking up each of the basic models with no options but V8 engine and 4x4
Ford F-150 XL $37575, F-250 $38465
Silverado 1500 WT $34985, 2500 $38145
Ram Classic Tradesman $34165, 2500 $36795
V8 engine is standard in the F-250-2500 models
 
I will agree with you on what you said, but a 1/2 ton truck is useless to me along with a 2 wheel drive. I understand I need a 3/4 ton truck and accept the fact I will pay for it. Doesnt mean I think some of the prices are good though. There are a few creature comforts I will not be without. Like air conditioning and power windows. Had plenty of vehicles like that in the past. I do understand your point though.
 
If I lived south of the salted roads states, vehicles would be a better buy. In mine and Brett's area by the time anything gets to the 150,000 miles mark, you have basically a bucket of rust held together with a few bolts. Brake lines are about shot, if you haven't already replaced them, you are on your second or third set of calipers and discs. You are either on your second set of fenders or have used up about 5 gallons of body putty. you generally have replaced the tranmission pan by then, too. Doesn't really matter if you buy new, a rental buy back, or something older, it all mounts to the same thing. It is very difficult to get them paid for before they won't pass inspection without putting a pile of money in them every year.
 
Yep all are fancier models usually. I will say to me air
conditioning is something I would never be without along with
power windows. Here in western New York it must get hotter
in the summer than where your located. I like a 4 door truck
(only on my second 4 door) I think theyre way nicer for many
reasons. As far as half ton trucks if I couldnt buy at least a 3/4
ton I may as well just have a small car. Im not disagreeing
with you, the cheap new trucks are out there if thats what
your looking for.
 
I usually watch these 'truck debates' and keep to myself. But today I'll add my 2 cents. Paying over $10,000 for any vehicle is just nuts, but I see where it works for some people. And someone has to buy new vehicles so there are used ones around. I always made good money at my job, but I never could afford any big payments-always something else to pay for, it seemed. And I live a modest life style-in fact it used bother me to see people who I knew did not even have a job(or one that made any money) and they had a way newer vehicle than me. How did they pay for it? I have ALWAYS paid my debts, but how do THEY do it?
But anyway, I always have searched for vehicles that were common and had as low as mileage as I could find, with the lowest price, newer tires, and one that never had an engine or transmission. If it had a big ticket repair, it has been neglected, abused, or is a lemon. I never buy from a dealer- I always look for a vehicle for along time until I find the RIGHT one. If read enough ads you can tell the people who are honest. Knock on wood, I have yet to buy a lemon. They have all been reliable and I have never had to be towed in close to a million miles of my own vehicles. Except deer wrecks.
I guess my point is, a used vehicle does not necessarily nickel and dime you if you choose carefully. Mark.
 
(quoted from post at 14:40:22 03/03/21) Dealer site shows the 2.7L in the 1500 albeit a crew cab. A little searching shows that you are correct with the regular cab still being made. Looks like a salesperson has not been truthful with me.
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F250 XL 4x4 is $37,000.00 and the fancier F250 XLT 4x4 is right at $40,000.00 Both are 8 foot box regular cab V8 gas engine. This is according to the Ford dealer information available to me. I sit on the board of directors of a local company, and we have purchased two new F150 4x4 trucks in the last 3 months and these prices are very much in line with the actual price we paid. Our trucks were the F150 extended cabXLT with air power windows etc V8 , 4 wd. And both came in well below 40 grand.
 
You know Don, we can rarely ever find a used truck here that is only 2-3 years old. Lease returns and trade in vehicles go right into the US market. While they do use salt on the road here, we rarely ever see just straight salt being applied, and often it will be to cold for salt to work so they will just put sand or a sand salt mixture. So the kind of salt rot that you are describing, isnt as common here. Unless the vehicle gets driven on city highway driving. Just a bit closer to Lake Ontario and salt will work. I am 50 miles north from the lake, and just a bit colder. I imagine where you live salt would nearly always work to melt snow off of the roads
 
I bought a new Ram [Dodge] 2500 4x4 Diesel Crew cab long bed less than 3 years ago and have 100,000 miles on it already. Use it for my business. It has almost every bell and whistle, and I love it!

On second set of tires, but other than oil changes and such, Zero issues. Fuel filters are over $100 to change, which is my only beef.

Original brakes, original tranny, original everything. Not even a light bulb has been replaced.

List price was over US$80,000. But it was money well spent.
 
I understand what you are saying and agree 100% . Investing in a depreciating asset is a foolish thing to do. That is if you are using your after tax income. A much better use of after tax income is to invest in a asset that will appreciate in value over time, like buying a house. I have seen people living in rental housing driving new cars or trucks, and they will never own their own home, and most times never pay for their vehicles either before they buy the next one. It makes no sense. On the other hand if your in a business, and your before taxable earnings can pay for your company vehicle and right off the cost as a deductible expense, then it is just part of the cost of doing business. And most of us that farm are in business after all. For a non business owner to buy new with their after tax dollars, entirely different story for sure
 
Thats really not bad ! I switched from diesel on this last truck I bought used. Couldnt justify the extra cost for a diesel anymore. Used to do a lot more towing and hauling. Those seem decent prices, but I usually only spend half that. What the bank roll says !
 
My 2016 Chevy work van is pretty plain by todays standards. Has AC and power windows and locks. No cruise control, nav or the rest of the junk that breaks. I bought it used for 20k with 49k on the clock. I didnt want new the cost was 14k more and 8k depreciation off the lot. So far so good.

Vito
 
Guess it all depends on your needs and expectations. I cant carry a new rear tractor tire or a new water heater or something bulky like that in the back of a SUV or minivan, but I dont need a 3/4-1 ton truck for that either. And most people that have trucks just have themselves to haul anyway
 
Think if people actually had to pay for the vehicle,or anything, when they bought it not just sign up for monthly payments they'd be a lot less likely to
'Go Big'.Something psychological about actually counting out the Greenbacks to pay for something,is for me anyway.
 
This got me to thinking because I may be g looking for a truck this spring. I want a dually cab and classy which I couldn't get a price on, but You can buy an F350 dually for close to the same as an F150. This surprised me for a bit til I remembered that the first 100,000 miles is usually the cheapest in a heavy truck. A used one like this is near $30,000.


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I agree.

Having been a GM salesman, had my own used car lot, having been a Ford Service Manager and a GM Assistant Service Manager, it's my studied opinion that the absolute worst way to buy a vehicle is to walk into a dealership and announce that you're in the market for a vehicle.

Statistically, when a qualified buyer makes a decision to buy a vehicle, 82% buy something within 72 hours. And that means going to a dealer.

The thing to do is sit back, relax, and be ready to grab a deal when it comes to you.
 
If those are the MSRPs then you should get another discount as well. The last truck I bought (in 2018) had a list price of $49590, including all options and freight. I bought it for $36309 before tax. Tax is 13 percent but I get that back being farm business vehicle. Discounts off of the list price include a $10300 fleet discount from our farmers union....which any farmer can get....plus a $2991 dealer discount.If the truck lasts me 15 years, that works out to about 2400 dollars a year to own the vehicle. I could buy an old one for 5000,and get two years out of it for the same cost of ownership, but I get three repair cost free years out of a new one, plus the depreciation write off on my farm books, plus I get exactly the truck I want, and get the best years out of it and unlike an old one, has new tires brakes battery etc.

Ben
 

Couple of years ago . My kid bought an old body style 2019 GMC elevation 4X4 double cab . Four extra rims , 4 blizzack snow tires and added remote start
. All in with tax , 49 thousand and change .
 
In order for people to buy used trucks someone has to buy new trucks...I have several friends that get new trucks whenever theirs runs out of warranty because they can afford to..I went from 1979 to 2019 without ever buying a new truck..I quite often ran old high mile trucks and I finally got tired of it..I wanted a good used 3-4 year old truck but most were priced far too close to that of a new one and had no warranty..

So in late August 2019 I finally considered getting a new one...My new 2018 Ram 2500 Tradesman stickered for $48,045 and I got 21% off as it had set on the lot for one year...Its a short bed crew cab 4x4 with the 6.4 Hemi and automatic..It was equipped just the way that I wanted it...It spends most of its time pulling a 25 ft dual wheel Starlite gooseneck trailer..In the winter we take it to town when the roads are bad..

I worked for 3M for many years and they gave us stock every quarter that they turned a good profit..They no longer do that...I was also in their 10% company match..Over the years I acquired lots of 3M stock and cashed some of it in to buy the truck and a new gooseneck trailer.

I know a guy that has a 40 year old truck and is now afraid to go anywhere in it..He worked hard,invested good,and is quite wealthy....He will die with the bank full of money rather than enjoy any of it..He could write a check for a 50K new truck and never even miss the money.
 

Best deals around I've seen for a basic regular cab white pickups is to buy a used one direct from Fastenal. The drive them a year or two delivering parts and then stick a for sale sign on them. They are in good shape and taken care of. Even the base models have most amenities unless you want the Harmon Karden stereo, etc.

It has been a few years but they were selling them for 10 or 11 grand when you would have to spend over 25K for something.

Call the local store or other stores or get ahold of the district manager. Forget the call I just giggled them. Looks like they have a mess of 2019 dodge rams 4x4 and 4x2 for around 19K to 21K for hemi tradesmans quad cab, extended cabs, regular cabs with miles from 14K to 60K right on their website.

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Jon, I suspect each state is different but here the F 350 is considered a commercial vehicle. It requires a commercial plate which is fine since it's just a matter of weight. The problem is it also requires commercial insurance which is much more expensive. It can't be added to your other automobile insurance either. Has to be a commercial policy all by itself.
 
I have two trucks,the F550 diesel long wheel base to pull trailers, haul loads,etc.Then the Toyota to pull a small trailer,ride to town,pick up a few bags of dog food,etc.
Something like a 3/4 ton to try to do both really never worked for me.
 
Would a 250 be the same? They are even less money. And I was able to find a chassis cab on fords site and it's a couple thousand less than this, about an even trade for 4x4. That is what I want because I want a dump bed. Here there are no restrictions like that as far as I know, but you can run farm or weight plates if you want. Farm plates save some money but you better not get caught going to a movie.
 
Same here. Much older than 5 years and you run into rust and rot problems from the road salt. Anything under 5 years old is priced the same as a new one, so may as well buy new.

This can never be stressed enough, SOMEONE HAS TO BUY THE NEW TRUCKS SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR USED ONES. So don't complain about the price of a new one if you don't want one and wouldn't buy one, and don't look down on anyone who does buy a new truck, because that could very well be your next used truck somewhere down the road...
 
(quoted from post at 21:29:18 03/03/21) Think if people actually had to pay for the vehicle,or anything, when they bought it not just sign up for monthly payments they'd be a lot less likely to
'Go Big'.Something psychological about actually counting out the Greenbacks to pay for something,is for me anyway.
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Ain't that the truth! That's my wife. "I can swing the payments!" Yeah, but for HOW LONG?
 
(quoted from post at 07:57:11 03/04/21) Jon, I suspect each state is different but here the F 350 is considered a commercial vehicle. It requires a commercial plate which is fine since it's just a matter of weight. The problem is it also requires commercial insurance which is much more expensive. It can't be added to your other automobile insurance either. Has to be a commercial policy all by itself.
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Yes, it varies by state. I could have put passenger plates on my F350, in fact the lady at DMV was doing it that way until I told here I wanted commercial since I'd be towing a stock trailer. Should have gone with Ag plates, but they cost more. OTOH, because my GVWR is over 8K, I don't have to worry about emissions stuff in my annual inspection. Dash light one saying "Check Engine" because the exhaust manifolds are leaking bad? So what?!! My F350 is one of the cheapest I have on my auto policy too.
 
You are correct..This has discussed on other forums over the years..About 75% of them said that they bought used trucks..Someone finally asked where the used truck
factory was at...There weren't very many comments after that.
 
You're right and I'm glad there are new everything buyers so I don't have to be one.On the other hand it does cost more to buy and own a new truck if it was cheaper than owning a used truck then all poor people would be driving new vehicles.
 
(quoted from post at 11:20:53 03/03/21) GM hasnt gotten rid of there regular cab trucks at all. Its just that the dealerships dont like to order them in, cause they can make more $$ selling a extended cab or 4 door truck. They still make them. And the regular cab trucks are starting to show up on dealer lots here. Good value savings if you dont need the back seat.
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lthough GM and Dodge make a regular cab long bed, they don't make a regular cab short bed. Only Ford does.
 
(quoted from post at 09:27:14 03/04/21)
(quoted from post at 21:29:18 03/03/21) Think if people actually had to pay for the vehicle,or anything, when they bought it not just sign up for monthly payments they'd be a lot less likely to
'Go Big'.Something psychological about actually counting out the Greenbacks to pay for something,is for me anyway.
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Ain't that the truth! That's my wife. "I can swing the payments!" Yeah, but for HOW LONG?
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Yep. Used to be car loans were for 3 years at super high interest. Then it went to 4. Then 5. Now they do 6 and 7, people get in over their heads or try to trade and then find out they are upside down on what they owe and what the value is.

We don't go any longer than a 4 year note. Especially now for 0 to 3 % or so. Then we try to pay ever 2 weeks and get ahead so we are paying more on the principal but some banks make it hard to do. Haven't had a trade in vehicle in about 40 years. Car was either wrecked or handed down to the daughter.
 

I don't care how other people spend their money, it's absolutely none of my business. It's when they try to justify it as being the smart thing to do or somehow cheaper int he long run or, worst, how you can "be someone", that irks me. I haven't had a car payment since '96 and I hope to never have one in the future.
 
Not sure where you guys are shopping for a new 4x4 for mid 30s. They are mid 40s here, at least for a v8. Mine ran mid 30s for a used one by the time I got a cap put on it, but it does have a lot of goodies on it/in it. Also helps quite a bit if you have a lot of money to put down initially like I did at the time. Not 30 something no more!
 

Plain jane no frills fleet trucks can be bought in the mid to upper 30's but no one buys them but fleet owners, even most of them are now optioning them with power windows and a couple of other features that drive the price up into the 40's pretty quick

Our 2018 F-150 Super Cab 4x4 had a base price of $34k, but with the options it had the final price was $46k.
We didn't buy it new, it was a lease truck that had been turned back in with 15k miles on the meter, we got the truck with extended warranties for $31k, newest and lowest mileage 4 wheel vehicle I've ever owned.
 
(quoted from post at 03:40:59 03/09/21) Not sure where you guys are shopping for a new 4x4 for mid 30s. They are mid 40s here, at least for a v8. Mine ran mid 30s for a used one by the time I got a cap put on it, but it does have a lot of goodies on it/in it. Also helps quite a bit if you have a lot of money to put down initially like I did at the time. Not 30 something no more!
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Thinking the same here . My son got a good deal with the new 2019 Elevation GMC 4x4 5.3 double cab , remote start , four extra aluminum rims , four blizzack winter tires and with sales tax for $49 thousand and change .
 
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