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Geo-TH,In

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At what point to you decide it time to stop repairing and buy a new
truck? What the final straw?
George
 
My trusty Silverado was 15 years old, the box was so rusty I was thinking about getting a tetanus shot just for walking by it. I had replaced the brakes lines twice, then the fuel pump quit at harvest time. I had enough. I had planned right along to make it to 2020, and buy my first, and last, brand new pickup. But this was October 2019. The local Chevy dealer had a left over 2019 work truck on the lot on sale with with a cash price, so 2019 it is.
 
My 99 Dodge 3500 diesel looks a bit rough but no rust.
290,000 miles and still runs great.
Will only buy one if I absolutely have to.
Gonna keep on driving it till the wheels fall off.
Richard in NW SC
 

When the engine blows. Have over 300,000 miles on the 98 Expedition and it keeps going and nice to drive except for the 12mpg. But it is good for hauling. Have 150,000 on the 2000 ford pickup which is getting some bed rust but for a farm truck, I don't care since I'm not trying to keep up with the Smith's and the Jones'. They are too old to be worth much to sell them.

Bot a 2008 prius new and they didn't even want to give anything for the 10 year old Expedition which was about the time the gov had that clunker buy back program because of the high gas prices. What a waste that program was.

Or if someone runs into me or I hit a deer and total it out.
 

I had bot the 2000 Ford pickup when 1 year old. Like it but I really regret selling my old 66 Ford F100 pickup. Wish I still had it at the farm. Had a 352 engine with a rear main seal leak so I always parked it on a slope so it didn't leak out too much. Park it in the other direction and it would be 2 quarts low.
 
I have no idea as I have never bought one brand new.

As far as replacing with a new to me one goes typically it is when either;

-The body is done

-My cost to repair exceeds cost to replace

-The need arises for something different/bigger
 
It would have to be some catastrophic body or frame damage before I'd consider replacing either of mine. The pickup turns 40 years old this year and my "new" SUV is 24 years old. They still do all I need them to so I don't see replacement in the near future. I've never owned a new one and don't see that changing either.
 
When I drop my cigarette on the floor boards and set the field on fire. Then it's time to replace the truck.
Oh, and I don't smoke.
 
It varies.

I had a 1989 Chevy K3500 with the 454 gas and kept it for 17 years. Drank a lot of fuel and had more dings and dents than straight sheet metal, but it always ran, towed anything I hooked it to, and was a snow-plowing Esso Bee.

I had a 2006 GMC K2500 that I traded as soon as it was paid for. You could HEAR that dang thing rusting.

Had a used 2001 Dodge Dakota that I also traded as soon as it was paid for, mostly because the warranty was also expiring and it had been eating a steady diet of brake parts.

My 2013 Tundra has been a peach. One warranty repair for a cam tower leak and one set of front brakes. It may well be my last full-sized pickup.

I usually last longer on cars, at least 10 years. I wound up giving my 2012 Corolla to my daughter because she desperately needed a car and we moved up to a 2020 RAV4. Again,@70, could possibly be my last car.
 
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(quoted from post at 14:06:50 03/02/21) At what point to you decide it time to stop repairing and buy a new
truck? What the final straw?
George
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I think you have reached that point.. I look at things, like this, is it a want or need. Getting older has change my view on my wants, I no longer enjoy working on old vehicles like i use to. I needed a decent vehicle and bought one . Now i'm not saying it needs to be brand new $ 50,000 one and when others question ( family ) ask I just say I'm spending my money or their inheritance , after all I earned it !! so did you..
 
My Dad has an 2001 Ford f-250 the had a hole punched through the block this summer but he still won't get rid of it. I've hit it with the baler accumulator 1 time my brother backed it In to fence post he hit a telephone pole with and everytime he takes it to the body shop and fixes it. It will turn 300,000 miles this year. He traded in a car a year ago for a 2015 f350 king ranch but he says he'll get rid of that before the old 250.
 

When the frame is so rusted it will no longer pass inspection and beyond repairing and the body is falling apart. And even then, it will never, ever be a NEW truck, it will just be a different used truck. The concept of buying a brand new truck for a good $30-45K, which is what they run around here, and having it be worth half that the moment you sign the paper work boggles my mind. I'm driving a 97 F350 crew with a 351 that needs exhaust and some body work. It's getting all the body cavities and frame washed out and coated with cosmoline this year after the body work. I put over 300K on 2 Toyotas before rust got the 91 and the engine went in the 90 at the same time the rust made it too far gone to pass inspection.

I really don't understand how anyone can possibly afford a brand new vehicle if it runs more than $25K anymore unless they are up in the top tier wage earners.
 
Bit of a different reason here. 2012 was a busy year, two ailing parents 70 miles away, emergency calls, and finally an estate to administer. My 1980 ranch rocket served well as a daily driver, but constantly needed TLC. I walked into the dealership, chatted with a sales guy I knew, and drove out with a new Jeep. OH how this old scotchman cried about the COST! Best thing I ever did. Still had to make many trips into the big city, but at least I didn't have to come home and fix fix fix. Still have the Jeep, long ago paid for, glad I bought it when I did.
All that being said, my pickup is a 1982 GMC 3/4 ton with a 454. A few rust spots, but does the job with a certain style. Pulls the shop trailer like a locomotive, and gets 14 miles to the Canadian gallon. If there were a travel trailer in the future, I might consider something more comfortable, but no plans to replace at this time. It does get looks from the young guys, being a Vintage Big Block Square Body and all. Funny, it wasn't vintage when I bought it. unc
 

The wheel fell off mine once, hub & all, but that didnt stop me from driving it either. Well.... at least not for long! :lol:
 
Youre not buying much of a truck for 45,000 maybe a car with
a small cargo area on the back that looks like a bed
 
For me its only been about repairs once, my old 01 F350 dually. Transmission was going to be 5 grand, so off it went. Got an 08 2500 Chebby, and it eventually got to where I couldnt climb up in it, so I downsized to a 1500, and I guess my next truck will probably be a smaller truck, or at least closer to the ground. Had to sell my beloved Mustang a few weeks ago simply because I couldnt bend low enough to get in it, and hurt to much trying to get out of it.
 
Since 1987 I ran nothing but older trucks..After over 30 years of working on them and often having no AC-etc I just got tired of it...I came close to being stranded on the road several times..So in early 2019 I stated looking at good clean used late model ones and the prices were crazy..One day in Sept 2019 an area Dodge dealer had 3 new 2018 model 2500's advertized on sale for 22% off list...They had been on his lot for exactly one year...I and the wife talked it over and I ended up with this 2500 Ram..All 3 of these trucks sold within hours of each other...All my 2500 does is pull a 25 ft gooseneck trailer to tractor shows and tractor pulls..It feels so good to have AC on a 90-100 degree day..Right now it has 5,800 miles on it and at my age it will never see 100,000 miles so its my last new truck..
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I have had my 51 3/4 GMC for 39 years and it has no rust. It is not going to be traded off by my son so the future of it is bright. Jim
 
Well since I sometimes travel well over an hour to get to work one way I need a reliable vehicle. Never buy new, just newer used vehicles. What I cant stand is when they start nickel and dimeing me to death and I have to work on it at night so I can get to work in the morning. When that starts happening on a regular basis I send them down the road.
 
John,
We share the same problems. I don't want to climb into a truck or get down into a car.
Those are the 2 reasons why I bought a new 07 GMC classic low rider and an 18 XT5.

Comfort is what I look for.
George
 
I dont understand some of the opinions of some of these comments. There is no real reward for crippling along with some piece of junk, except paying more income tax. My trucks are a deductible farm expense, just like the rest of my farm equipment. The reason I bought a new truck was because a deer decided to jump in front of the last truck, setting off both air bags. And the insurance company wrote the truck off. Even though the truck only had 120,000km or 70 ,000 miles on it, I had replaced all the brake lines, fuel pump, assorted brake parts and was thoroughly sick of this GMC truck. And had been left stranded with it, needing to be towed twice. The other thing I dont understand is why guys think its so important to have a truck to haul a trailer. For any trucking I need done, I ac hire it done, and not have to have a lot of extra $$ tied up in a 3/4-1 ton truck, just to haul a tractor to a show. I have tractors and wagons to haul hay. And plenty of livestock haulers are ready and waiting for my call to move cattle. All insured, and capable. I will probably have a son that will be ready to take over my pickup once it turns 10. And I will have another new truck. My current truck is a 2015 and has 40,000 miles on it. Still looks like new, and I drive it anywhere, as often as I need to..It cost me I think 26 grand brand new. And if I drive it for ten years and give it away after, it only cost me around $2,500 a year to have a decent truck or $200 a month. And it has had no repairs in the first 6 years. So if you can afford a new truck, why drive junk, probably cost as much in the long run anyway
 
I have never bought a new truck. Probably never will. The best I could hope for is a 10 year old,if that new... I've been running 'junkers' my entire life.Probably always will.Gotten along pretty well. I bought a (fancy) 99 Chevey with 81,000 miles in 2013. Fancy deluxe model,all the 'bells and whisles'.A 'traveling ' and 'Sunday go to meeting' vehickle. It now has just over 100,000 miles. I dont trust it. It is going to be sold soon.Nice pickuo,just dont trust it as it's failed me a couple of times,left me stranded.Dont know what will replace it.My 1970 Ford F-100 will never leave. It's my everyday driver.It's amazeing how much 'abuse' that pickup has endured. Anything else would be broken in half. LOLMy Navy neclear tecinician son has said he wants it.
 
I've been thinking of buying a new truck (or even a used truck) all of my life but never have.

Maybe someday.

Dean
 
At 64 it's still easier to step 'up' into and 'fall out' of a taller truck than it is to squat down into a low car and then have to climb out. My old 1970F100 is a perfect hight..
 
I will never buy a new truck again. My last one is now 20 years old and only has 80k on it, still in great shape. I have been on a multiple truck system for about those same 20 years. I have that "good" truck that only gets used to pull/haul , I have an old beater for odd jobs and running errands, and several farm trucks for the real abusive stuff. I realize not everyone has the space or mechanical ability to do this, but it works for me. I don't understand guys who buy $50k trucks and then commute with them, empty, or pound around in the woods cutting wood with it.
 
My old 90 GMC had 286000 miles on it when I bought a 2013 Chevy in 2014. Old truck only broke down once, split a fuel pump hose in front of my mailbox. Don't think I needed the new one, only put 33,000 miles on it since July 2014.
 
You raise an interesting point. How much is a truck used for its actual purpose which is to move or tow cargo? How much is it used as a form of transportation? I could see myself replacing my current truck for a fuel efficient car as a primary vehicle. Without an off farm job I put an average of 5,000 miles per year on my current truck. It passed inspection for 2021. Given that it is a 2006 Silverado the trade value would be minimal so maybe for the extra cost of insurance keeping it as a secondary vehicle it would be the vehicle to go get big parts or bulk materials with.
 

I dont know where you can buy a new pickup for 26,000 or $200 a month. Mine cost more than that in 1994. A diesel 3/4 ton pickup close to mine is more like 75,000 and no where near as reliable as what Im driving now from what Ive seen. Computers have ruined them in my eyes. All I hear from owners is complaints of breakdowns.
 
Since your truck is a deductible farm expense for tax purposes are you allowed to use it for non-farm use?

If I use a vehicle for business expense I can write off for tax purposes the amount I use the vehicle for business use. It can be time consuming/annoying to keep track of the miles for business use vs personal use.
 
In my situation, there really isnt a situation were my truck isnt being used for a farm purpose. We will drive my wifes Jeep if we go into Toronto, just so easy to park that thing in under ground parking or parking towers. I really dont have anywhere to go, I never have a off farm job to go to. Any trips I take like driving to the Dairy Ex in Madison WI are allowable legitimate farm expenses.
 
i agree with bruce. my truck is a work vehicle. when my 2006 chevy hit 250k on the odometer and i was having random breakdowns, i bought a new one. i need the truck to work , not sit in the shop. so in 2018 i bought a new 2500 hd long bed double cab gasser. very happy with it, and it will tow a load. about 40k out the door oh and it is a wt, not a fancy truck.

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I completely agree. I've gone from a 1999 2WD Silverado to a 2004 4WD to a 2019 4WD. Each time it gets taller, as I get older, and harder to get into!
 
A diesel truck will cost you a extra 10 grand at least
right off the hop. Only people that really need a
diesel are the ones that are going to run the truck
40-50,000 miles a year. And rack on the 4-500,000
miles in the 10 year life of the truck. Otherwise a big
gas like the Ford 460 will pull a travel trailer or stock
trailer just as well. And how many really need 4 wd?
Sure its nice, but its another 10 grand option. They
plough and salt the roads where I live, and I have
no need to go driving through fields with a truck. I
have tractors for that. And regular cab trucks cost
less than the trucks with a back seat. My kids are
grown up adults, and really only my wife and I travel
anywhere in our truck. So we dont need a pickup
people mover. If we are going some place with a
passenger, the Jeep has a reasonable backseat,
and we will drive that. Careful assessment of wants
and needs will put you in a truck like everyone had
in the 60s , 2wd regular cab for under 30 grand
 
The wife and I drive a LOT of miles for work. When the factory warranty is gone and we detect an issue- that vehicle is gone.
We're too old to break down on the road at -30 degrees. Used to keep a back-up but mice got in one and wrecked it inside, and squirrels ate $1300 of wiring off another.
 
It depends on how much you need the truck and what happens when it breaks down. I have always bought new and I run them until they get to the point where I cannot rely on them. If I need to think twice before taking it on a 500-mile trip, it is gone and I get a new one.

The bad news is that they cost an awful lot of money. The good news is they last a heck of a lot longer than they did 30 or 40 years ago. Back then 100,000 miles was the limit. Today that is a truck that is as good as new.
 
Bought new trucks until 2005. New '05 Chev 1500 4x4 Silverado. It spent way too much time at dealer. '97 Ram 1500, 16 times to dealer twice on a hook, '87 Chev K-10 great truck till the body went away, '79 Blazer k-5 excellent vehicle. Then after the 2005 Chev I bought a 1986 CUCV Chev D-30 . What a beast ! The only thing I hated was baby sitting the fuel and electrical systems. Half 12 volt and half 24 volt system. Air conditioning relay that failed used from factory for a start relay at 24 volts. Relay burnt contacts closed and smoked the starter. 2 12 volt delco alternators to charge it. Stanadyne injector pump that requires 4-6 oz. of 2 cycle oil at every fill up. weak gimpy glow plug wiring/connections. Now I own a really nice "rice burner" Toyota Tacoma 2009 4x4 v-6 auto. I bought it used with 62,000 miles on it. Have done nothing but brake pads on the front. Frame was examined at Toyota dealer and was found to be sound. They coated it and I have sprayed it with my own concoction of Fluid Film , Boiled Linseed Oil and chainsaw bar oil. In my older failing years , I'll run the Tacoma till the cows come home..
 
Up here in the salt belt its when components start rusting away, rather than just brake lines. For my 01 Silverado HD the last straw was when the transmission cooler blew out on the way to the lake with the boat. Limped it home by adding brake fluid I had in the truck. This was after losing a rear shackle, the fuel filler tube, some of the brake lines twice, and I forget what else. Oddly, it still had the original exhaust system on it - I think it was stainless.

Tim
 
For me, never. Jut had a new 350 Chev put in Old Blue, and the body rebuilt. $7000, but she's good for another 30 or 40 years. My sons can fight over her when Im gone.
 
Thats the way I look at it....I went 40 years between new trucks often driving stuff that no one else wanted.....For years I both farmed and worked a town job with lots of
OT and put some money away....Now,its time to spend some of it while I still have the time and health to enjoy it..Just a few years ago I was driving this 1988 Ford F-350
that had tons of miles...One Sunday afternoon coming home from the Adrian,MO tractor show I shut it off at McDonalds in Butler,MO...After eating I went out and started
it up and made it the 35 miles home..It never ran again..Those old Fords were a wiring nightmare and I and friends could never get it to run...The wiring was totally shot
and the truck was getting real rusty...
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SV,
I had my 07 GMC classic undercoated when it was new, so rust isn't an Issue for me.

I've watched Kounts Kustoms (spelling?) In Los Vegas on history channel. I've seen them do a complete restos on older trucks in very bad shape for less money than new truck.

The classic body style is a thing of the past. I would be tempted to find someone locally to do a frame off resto, a newer engine and tranny if I could get it done for less than the cost of a new truck.

If I took it to Vegas, I would have a Kounts Kuston Classic.
Might be cool to rent a car and See the Grand Canyon and other places of interest while the work is being done.
George
 
When my truck broke down I figured up my cost per mile to that point. Then took to cost per mile and figured how much farther I needed to drive to get the same or less cost per mile. If it seemed feasible that it could done I fixed it. But after 33 years and 275000 miles I just gave up took my 1970 C20 Chevy to junk yard. I bought her for 2200 dollars and sold her for 300..
 
Jo
There is a way to have your cake and ear
it too. I've put a lot of my spare change
in the stock market.
I use the profits to buy new car and new
tractor. So my kids inheritance is in
the market and growing. While I enjoy
driving a Caddy and new Kubota.
George
 

My back Dr in 2004 told me to get rid of the car, too low, and buy a truck or SUV. That's before in 2008 trucks were jacked up. I know many people who wish their trucks weren't so tall.
geo
 
(quoted from post at 22:23:58 03/02/21) A diesel truck will cost you a extra 10 grand at least
right off the hop. Only people that really need a
diesel are the ones that are going to run the truck
40-50,000 miles a year. And rack on the 4-500,000
miles in the 10 year life of the truck. Otherwise a big
gas like the Ford 460 will pull a travel trailer or stock
trailer just as well. And how many really need 4 wd?
Sure its nice, but its another 10 grand option. They
plough and salt the roads where I live, and I have
no need to go driving through fields with a truck. I
have tractors for that. And regular cab trucks cost
less than the trucks with a back seat. My kids are
grown up adults, and really only my wife and I travel
anywhere in our truck. So we dont need a pickup
people mover. If we are going some place with a
passenger, the Jeep has a reasonable backseat,
and we will drive that. Careful assessment of wants
and needs will put you in a truck like everyone had
in the 60s , 2wd regular cab for under 30 grand
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Different strokes for different folks I guess. In central NY I cant imagine anyone owning any pickup that wasn't 4-wheel drive. We get lake effect snow here measured in feet, not inches. Even though they salt the roads up the wazoo, you will definitely need 4-wheel drive in the winter. 2-wheel drive PUs are unheard of here. Ive had gas pickups before but would never go back to one again. Maybe if you just used it as a car but I use it as a truck and actually haul with it. Better mileage, much less maintenance and far more reliable. I prefer standard cab trucks and its what I own. Try to find one on a dealers lot anymore. Haven't seen a new one in years. I haven't seen any Pickup at a dealer under 40 grand in a while and i wouldn't consider them a real truck. Ill stick with what I have. Diesel, Standard 5 speed and 4x4. No computer or electronic nonsense. Not afraid to drive it anywhere. :)
 
They get replaced when they need to be replaced.About 8 years ago the frame on my 96 Dodge truck got pretty crusty.i looked at it,and bought a frame from some kids that built and played with Dodge trucks.I stripped the frame down,even splitting the front from the rear sections,and removed all the spring mounts and towers.I blasted and epoxy painted every part,even the individual spring leaves.The Dodge dealer was here buying a Model A from me while I was rebuilding it.He said that that truck set up like that,aluminum flatbed,Cummins power,Fisher plow,air,cruise,power everything was $68,000.I refurbished that truck in less than a months time.I do have a good shop though.I am a big believer in using a truck for what it is meant to do.I wouldn't use the Rabbit diesel pickup to haul what the dodge does,and won't run around for little parts hauls in the Dodge.
 
My truck is in good shape, 2010, 150k miles.

Last year it has a gremlin that is getting worse. It lights up the warning lights and goes to limp mode, 1200rpm Max. Sometimes you can cycle it off and it runs fine sometimes it re occurs every mile down the road.

Cam sensor is the main code. But Im on my third set of cam sensors, just got a new wiring harness put in for that area, had the throttle and throttle body replaces.

Still doing it.

That gets frustrating, cant depend on the beast because the sensors dont let it run.

Im not prepared to pay what a good 3/4 ton costs these days, so dont know what the cards hold for me.

Paul
 
I am on my 4th truck, each bought brand new. First one, a1981 Chev 6 cylinder 4 speed,$8000, I sold my car, but needed a truck for the farm. Drove it for 200,000 plus miles, one paint and engine rebuild, sold it in 1996 for 1500...it's currently being restored. The next one, a 1996 GMC 1500 V6 4wd, 18000 cash, ..at the time I moved cattle between farms every month, and the 4wd was a lifesaver. Drove it for 150000 miles, sold it for 3500 to my brother who uses it as his shop truck for his repair business...still going with 300000 miles on it now. Bought a 2009 GMC 4wd ext. cab, 24000....needed the extra cab space with 3 kids, used the truck to tow the travel trailer on holidays. Drove it to 125000 miles, sold it in 2018 to a young fella for 12000, he drove it out West and is still there. Bought a 2018 Silverado V6 4wd double cab, a few extras, 34000 , drove it to the Arctic Ocean and back when it was a month old, just off warranty today with 45000 miles. Probably the last one I'll buy.
In all those miles, never had a breakdown, never stopped on the side of the road, just regular wear items replaced, except for the 6 cylinders rings and bearings, never failed to start, so no brand change for me.

Never traded because of an issue with the truck....just needed one that could do a few more things I needed it to do.

Ben
 
I'm buying a new two wheel drive, mid size pickup, NO extended cab as soon as I win the power ball. I don't buy tickets and I don't think they make what I want.

I have a two wheel drive Dakota, 23 years old. Darn extended cab so can't get it in the garage when It needs something done on it. Getting kind of rusty and sitting outside all year around, lot of things take a beating.

It would take three years of income to buy a new one from what I understand.
 
Last one was when putting new brakes, tires and some small items
well exceeded the value of a 225k 14 year old truck that started to consume oil and rust getting worse. It served me well but time to move on.

Vito
 
I have a 1992 Dakota extended cab 4WD I use as a farm vehicle,friend gave it to me after he punched in the front right fender and the insurance company totaled it.Runs,rides and drives fine.
 
Local Ford dealer had this one last spring. 4x4
regular cab. I took the pictures because I liked the
look of the truck. And have thought about getting
the red painted on to the white truck I already own.
It could be bought $600 per month for 72 months or
less for cash. Price was listed , I didnt inquire
personally.
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Appearance IS important - if not to me then to others.
I did a lot of remodeling for the last 30+ years. Many of my jobs were in high end homes.
Those folks don't appreciate an old clunker pickup parked in their driveway.
Here in snow country the salt is brutal on vehicles. So I bought new every 6 or so years.
 
SV
If I could find a person who could install an upgraded motor, tranny and wire in old gauges to new ECM, I may opt to have my 2007 GMC restored when either motor or tranny goes south.

Or maybe I'll have a car turned a truck. I'll
Call it caddy-up.
That would be a one of a kind. Like Johnny Cash's Cadillac.

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Any of the following could require a newer pickup (and I jest not)-

1. When the pickup is so rusty that when you hit a deer- the deer lands inside the box, then slides out of a rust hole on the other side... leaving some deer hair around the rough edges of the rust hole.

2. When it is so rusty that it begins to leak gas and has to be drained and put up on rocks at a junkyard. Yeppers, up on rocks... they are cheaper than wood blocks. LOL

I know not, why... that is just how Mr. Sweet rolls. Likes to get every penny's worth of use. ;>)
 
Well at 70 years old I don't think I will be buying a new or used truck. My current truck is a 99 Dodge Ram 4X4 that I bought new. It only has 32,000 miles on the odometer. 318ci with a 5 speed. Easy to repair.
 

Anyone know what the typical markup/spread is between dealer invoice and MSRP on a typical ford, dodge, and chevy pickup? Seems like I see some end of the year closeouts when the new model is coming out with some crazy deals like 15 grand off of MSRP. That's quite a markup unless they are selling it below cost.

I know there are dealer volume incentives and holdbacks but it just seems to me that the markup is higher on a pickup than an SUV or car.
 
All depends on what you use it for and how many miles you put on it. I put about 30,000 miles per year, much is cross country driving. I usually trade every year and have figured with the tax savings for business use it costs very little more than keeping it. Repairs on newer trucks can get very expensive. I never spend any money on it, have a new vehicle that never needs repairs.
 
Becomes a safety issue at some point. I've got a 2016 F-150 (4x4) that I'm hoping to get another 10 years out of, but who knows living in snowy, salty places such as I do. Its only got 56,000 on it now. Would like to get 150,000 to 170,000 miles on it before it becomes more trouble than its worth. I would say when the annual cost of repairs exceeds making a vehicle payment on a slightly used one, its time to move on.
 
I have a 2004 Ford superduty with 56,000 miles. I will not be renewing the registration this year,the frame is so heavily rusted that its no longer safe to pull trailers with it,the main reason I have it.
 
For me hopefully it will be awhile. My 01 Silverado has about 370,000 on it, the 92 F350 is right around 200,000. No rust issues around here to speak of. If one is wrecked or mechanical repairs are a couple times the vehicles worth it will be replaced. I say a couple of times the worth because I see a few thousand dollars is better than 30 thousand or more.
 
(quoted from post at 06:40:15 03/03/21) I can buy a lot of dist caps and coils for $600 per month.
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Yep. What gets me is all city and county employees everywhere and appear in front of their commission asking for new vehicles. It's always the same old story. The vehicle is 2 or 3 years old and maintenance costs are going up.

I am thinking of course maintenance goes up but not compared to buying new. They all want to be driving newer vehicles and the commissions usually bite.

Another pet peeve is the city/county employee saying they were told they need to replace the HVAC system in the building cause it is at the end of its 6 year guaranteed life and (of course) maintenance costs are going up. Even though it works fine.

And they all say they have money in the budget to cover it. Never mind the fact that a year ago when the budget was formulated, the item was not even known or factored it.

See the same thing now for we need new updated software at a crazy price cause the old system is outdated.

Getting too many people on these commissions who have no common sense, no business sense, and who don't know the difference between a hammer and screwdriver.

Remember being at a commission meeting and the fire chief was asking to buy 2 new special motorola radios at a high price. Claimed they will work better for communication from the inside of a burning building to the outside. When asked to see one he pulled it out of his belt holster and said the company was letting them try it out. When asked who would have them and he said it would be he and the asst. chief. Well they agreed to buy them. I was sitting back there thinking that if there is a building fire somewhere, the chief and the asst. chief are never going to be the ones entering a burning building. It's the regular firefighter who could probably use them.

Getting off the soap box now.
 
(quoted from post at 11:18:53 03/02/21) Youre not buying much of a truck for 45,000 maybe a car with
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You're right. I'm way behind the times. Just looked at some online prices of new trucks locally. I never thought I'd see a 1/2 ton pickup cost over $75,000.00!!!!!!!! Insanity!!!! :shock:
 
(quoted from post at 11:56:40 03/02/21) I dont understand some of the opinions of some of these comments. There is no real reward for crippling along with some piece of junk, except paying more income tax. My trucks are a deductible farm expense, just like the rest of my farm equipment. The reason I bought a new truck was because a deer decided to jump in front of the last truck, setting off both air bags. And the insurance company wrote the truck off. Even though the truck only had 120,000km or 70 ,000 miles on it, I had replaced all the brake lines, fuel pump, assorted brake parts and was thoroughly sick of this GMC truck. And had been left stranded with it, needing to be towed twice. The other thing I dont understand is why guys think its so important to have a truck to haul a trailer. For any trucking I need done, I ac hire it done, and not have to have a lot of extra $$ tied up in a 3/4-1 ton truck, just to haul a tractor to a show. I have tractors and wagons to haul hay. And plenty of livestock haulers are ready and waiting for my call to move cattle. All insured, and capable. I will probably have a son that will be ready to take over my pickup once it turns 10. And I will have another new truck. My current truck is a 2015 and has 40,000 miles on it. Still looks like new, and I drive it anywhere, as often as I need to..It cost me I think 26 grand brand new. And if I drive it for ten years and give it away after, it only cost me around $2,500 a year to have a decent truck or $200 a month. And it has had no repairs in the first 6 years. So if you can afford a new truck, why drive junk, probably cost as much in the long run anyway
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Respectfully, maybe because some of us can't even begin to afford new this and new that and the other thing. Depends on where you live too and what tax structure is in play, what subsidies underwrite your operation or not, what you do for a living, how many other items are sucking out of your bank account/how much cash flow you have and above all, what your priorities are. A new truck is right up there with getting a tattoo of Joe nnalert smelling Justin Trudeau's hair on my list!
 
For this area, George, by the time anything gets north of 150,000 miles on it (in some cases, sooner than that), it becomes a money pit. Buying new is out of the question for most folks in this area. Most new vehicles seen in this area are rentals. The real trick is finding rental buy backs at a price you can get paid off about 2 months before the wheels fall off. Most of the time, you don't.
 
My grandparents all died off between 1962 and 1974. Can you imagine what a shock they would get if they could come back and see what things cost today, Bret? They would jump back in the hole and holler, "Hurry up and cover me back up"!!!!!
 
(quoted from post at 13:01:21 03/03/21) My grandparents all died off between 1962 and 1974. Can you imagine what a shock they would get if they could come back and see what things cost today, Bret? They would jump back in the hole and holler, "Hurry up and cover me back up"!!!!!
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I agree Don. You don't even have to go that far back. I bought my only new truck, a 91 Toyota 4wd, for $14K out the door. 30 years later you're looking at 3x that before taxes, fee's, etc. That's as much as my first house and half as much as the one I'm in now! Insane. Add to it the overall prices around us. I'm on 342 acres here. My beloved would like to move down in the Saratoga area someday to be near her sisters (no comment!). You know what I can get for this place, maybe $175K if I'm lucy, probably closer to $135K. Everything decent down that way starts at almost twice that! I don't know how people can make it these days. Even when I worked for the state and bringing home good $$$ it's not like there was too much of it.

I guess I'm just too old to deal with $5.00 cups of coffee and a cheap hamburg, fries and drink costing $12.00!!!!
 
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