Last month I had a propane leak on my leased tank. The leak was on the gage fitting. the operator tightened the fitting, and no more leak. Now she says I need to do a leak check in the house. I asked why. She said she needs too. No leak in the house. Now I get a bill for a service charge, and a leak check. What do you think? Stan
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Michael Soldan
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When we bought our cottage the propane supplier phoned and said the system needed to be checked before we moved in. They said it would be $100 for the service and $213 mileage to come from Hamilton Ontario to Goderich for a total of $313 plus tax. I told them to come and get their tank , it would be sitting by the side of the road in front of the cottage. All of a sudden it was $100 to check everything over after the owner moved out and we moved it. I would hardly think any gas line was damaged in moving in and out but there was peace of mind that everything was good.
flying belgian
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I own my own tanks and let one of them run empty one day. So they had to do an emergency fill and before he would open the tank to the house he had to do a leak check on furnace and all gas appliances. I think that cost me $190.
Hobo,NC
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- Sanford, NC
The trill of NG, I have never been billed to install a NG appliance, check the operation are to make sure everything is in working order.
I did get a bill for material to run NG to my shop. $700 I priced the material that was what it would have cost me if I did it myself... Most of the new HIGH priced developments around here don't have NG available WHY its out on the main highway to them...
I have known some good men that work with propane I came to the conclusion sniff'N propane will make you LIE... Its gotta be the propane...
Yeah. After I posted above I remembered another one. This was just a fire. No explosion. My neighbor woke up at about 0445 and smelled smoke. He opened the basement door and saw that his gas water heater was ablaze. He got his wife out of the house, called the Fire Department and shut off the propane at the tank. When the Fire Department got there there was a pretty good blaze going but they filled the basement with foam and the fire went out but the house was a total loss. He had switched to propane because the Insurance Company was surcharging him for the outdoor woodstove he had been heating the house with. Said it was a fire hazard.
fixerupper
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Their insurance company makes them do it. I have had the same treatment.
I guess I am just lucky to live where I do. I leased a 500 gal tank from Blue flame (at the time, since changed names). Then years later bought a 1000 gal tank from another supplier who filled it not hooked up. When the 500 gal tank got used up I ran my own tubing to new tank and had 500 removed. I later moved new 1000 to where the 500 was. When I needed fuel the old supplier had the best price, but said needed to do a leak test because of new installation. OK I needed the gas so I agreed. Driver came out with tanker truck, as only appliance on line was furnace had me to power it down so could not start. He disconnected the line and hooked his gauge up turned on valve read gauge then turned valve off. Waited a given amount of time and no drop in pressure it passed. No charge for test but filling a 1000 gal tank that was low $$$. Got to love small towns. joe
I have to do 100 leak tests every year just because of insurance. It has to be performed any time the tank is shut off for any reason. First it is a safety precaution. Second it’s for the propane company to cover their behind... I encourage everyone to get a leak test whenever possible. If there is NOT a leak it only takes a few minutes. If there IS a leak, it could prevent a big problem. I don’t charge for leak testing because I don’t want anyone to have ANY reason to refuse one. That being said, it takes time and money to hire someone, train them, become certified, take the company vehicle, supply the testing equipment, and to do it all correctly.
DoubleO7
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So how come the natural gas company is not leak testing also?
So how come the natural gas company is not leak testing also?
Stephen Newell
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I can see them charging but they should have told you there would be a charge before they did it. Under those circumstances I wouldn't pay it.
Most of the rechecks are hooy but, When we built this house the LP company loaned me a 500 gal they
had on wheels. After we moved in and ran the tank to empty I called them to move my tank from the
farm house to here(30 yards). The set up a leak test and found the hvac company had not tightened
the black iron pipe in the attic. The leak had been running out the eave vents.
had on wheels. After we moved in and ran the tank to empty I called them to move my tank from the
farm house to here(30 yards). The set up a leak test and found the hvac company had not tightened
the black iron pipe in the attic. The leak had been running out the eave vents.
Steve@Advance
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I think they gottcha, unless there is another propane company you can go to, and get out of the lease.
Otherwise they will refuse to refill the tank until the bill is paid.
Otherwise they will refuse to refill the tank until the bill is paid.
1948CaseVAI
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If the leak check was done you need to pay the bill.
wore out
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"So how come the natural gas company is not leak testing also?"
In general, LP gas is heavier than air and any leaked gas will sink to the lowest level of a building or basement and hang around and build up 'til 'it's concentration and the level it rises to reach a source of ignition.
On the other hand, natural gas is lighter than air and a small leak will tend to rise and dissipate out of a building (through the chimney, as an example, if the pilot goes out).
Think I'd give the propane company owner a call. Let them know you think they did shoddy work in repairing the tank, that you think it is leaking again because you can smell something, they will be liable when it blows up, you'll call 911 to let the fire department know to check it out, and that they should bring you a new tank at no charge.
YTOSHA strictly warned against touching the tank grave danger was sure to follow If anyone but barney himself was to even try to tighten the screws and assured him that the propane company would fix the leak for free . Wait you mean barney blew it again Andy how could that of happened
Texasmark1
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Independent propane companies are getting bought out by Ameri Gas around here, at least my mom and pop was and Ameri Gas 20# tanks at the stores are all that brand. I had to have a new type valve put in my tank for safety reasons they said and in that included a leak check in the system. Apparently some insurance companies don't like paying damages for a house full of mom, pop, and kidos when the house goes boom because of a leak and the ambulance chasers chase the corporation!
Walston
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- Upstate SC
Natural gas is at much lower pressure than propane and a leak is much less likely.
showcrop
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"The insurance company makes them do it". Yes, and who tells the insurance company that they need to tell the gas company to do it?
THE LAWYERS. If there were to a problem requiring significant payments, the various entities involved will notify their lawyers and they litigate it out and attempt to subrogate so that their customer does not pay. Lawyers need to eat too.
Hobo,NC
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- Sanford, NC
Keep a good eye on it, it will leak again BTDT.
I used to work in the propane business. Laws vary state to state, some states require a leak test if you run out of propane on your system. It may be required by their insurance to cover the company for liability. Also, if the company is a regional, nationwide etc outfit, they are usually more sticklers on rules than the old home town owned company with only a couple of trucks running locally. If they do the leak test paper work correctly, they also get the brand, model and serial number off of all your appliances and keep record of all that, then if your house burns down they can go look at the records and see if there has been any recalls etc on any of your stuff, so if cause of the fire can be determined to have been caused bay any appliance they can easily go after the appliance company, so it`s a good thing to have if something bad happens. A really good propane supplier will do this either cheaply or free to help keep a customer happy, any company that charges over $100 probably isn`t the best company to be with.
Centerplate
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- Green County Wi
I built a new house and had to have the old tank moved to supply the new house. They then told me I had to have an inspection and they wanted to record the serial numbers of all my appliances. No charge for this inspection. If I were you it might be worth looking for a different propane supplier.
DoubleO7
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- Location
- Crystal River, FL
Typically....
Propane appliances run on 10 to 11" W. C.
Natural gas appliances run on 7" W.C.
Not a big difference there.Maybe the propane molecules are significantly smaller then NG as well?
I think it is more due to wore outs reason.
In 30 years the New Green Deal will have replaced both fuels with so sort of voodoo heat.
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