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Hi to all. I am new to this community and also very new to the use of tractor. I need help here, please:
I bought a John Deere 401A Industrial tractor (1980) to be sent to Africa. That's over one year ago. But the real tires are filled with calcium. We don't have facilitates over in my country to manage calcium-filled tractor tires. Now there is also a rust on one of the rims, making the pressure in the tire to fall flat.
My question: is it possible for me to use the same tire and replace the calcium with tube; or Am I going to buy new tire and rim all together? And how much could it cause me to do that?
Thanks
Zayzay
 
(quoted from post at 23:36:51 01/20/21) Hi to all. I am new to this community and also very new to the use of tractor. I need help here, please:
I bought a John Deere 401A Industrial tractor (1980) to be sent to Africa. That's over one year ago. But the real tires are filled with calcium. We don't have facilitates over in my country to manage calcium-filled tractor tires. Now there is also a rust on one of the rims, making the pressure in the tire to fall flat.
My question: is it possible for me to use the same tire and replace the calcium with tube; or Am I going to buy new tire and rim all together? And how much could it cause me to do that?
Thanks
Zayzay
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The calcium is in the tube. When the tube starts leak calcium gets between the tube and rim causing it to rust.so provided your tire and rim are still good you can remove the calcium and replace the tube. Clean the right. Up and repaint it if it is still useable.
 
As Olliejunkie said, the calcium is in a tube. You can drain the calcium and replace the tube, then reuse the tire. If you drain the tube, be aware that the calcium is a salt and will kill any vegetation it gets on. It is also corrosive to steel. So, clean the wheel good, and paint it. Put a new tube in and you're in business.
 
Thanks for the helpful information. From observation, I believe the calcium is begun to leak. The tube stem is highly rusted. The next question: only one of the real tires has the problem. Is it feasible for me to change the tire with rust by changing the tube and putting natural air and leaving the other times with the calcium. will that be a balance for the tractor?
 
Where is the tractor now, Africa or still in the US? Does it freeze where it's going? If it NEVER freezes where it's going, you could fill the tire with plain water. It wouldn't be as heavy as the fluid but would be an improvement ballast wise over an air only tire. When you clean up the rim, you need to use something to neutralize the calcium on the rim or it will just keep on rusting.
 
No, the tractor is still here. I intend to ship it early February. The part of Africa it is going is hot, with around -76 to 80 degree each day.
 
(quoted from post at 03:17:01 01/21/21) Thanks for the helpful information. From observation, I believe the calcium is begun to leak. The tube stem is highly rusted. The next question: only one of the real tires has the problem. Is it feasible for me to change the tire with rust by changing the tube and putting natural air and leaving the other times with the calcium. will that be a balance for the tractor?
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A 401 by nature is light on the rear.

They work real good with a backhoe or cement mixer on back.
I have a forklift mast that attaches to the 3 point on the back of mine but I rarely ever use it, I find 3 point forks with a bale on back provide sufficient weight for traction and stability.

Depending on what you plan on using it for will dictate the need for weight.

Does it have a loader on it?
If it does you will want to keep fluid in the tires or install some kind of counter weight or wheel weights to keep it safe and useable.

If it is just going to pull around a post pounder or finishing mower you could get by without the weight.

You could operate it with just air in one tire but the above situations will determine how much negative effect it will have.

If I was in your shoes I would probably have a tire shop put new tubes in both rear wheels and you or them could clean up the rims as required.

Last thing you want is to get a clean up bill from the shipping company should the calcium leak all over the place while in transit.
 
You will want to remove the calcium from both tires, or keep it in both tires. Having it only in one tire will cause traction and balance problems as you suspect.

By removing it from both, you eliminate some weight reducing your shipping cost. You also do not have facilities to handle calcium in Africa, so you should get rid of it here.

Until you disassemble the tire and wheel with the leak you will not know what you need. Maybe just a new tube.

There is nothing to "neutralize" the calcium, except for lots and lots of fresh water. It is a salt, not an acid or alkaline.
 
With the tube out I have had good luck flushing the calcium with water several times. A few gallons each flush, careful draining to get all the water out each time, then
fill with air a few times and deflate over a few days to absorb the little moisture left in the tube. If the tube is good this will get rid of the calcium. Clean and
paint the rim, (if it is still useable) and let the paint cure for a few weeks or it may stick to the tube. There are non corrosive liquids that are heavier than water
if you still want to load the tires. Don't know what is available where you are.
 
Better remove the calcium from both tires and replace the tubes and the wheel here in the US. It mite be hard to get a new wheel in Africa and definatly
more expensive.
 
Until you get the calcium out and the tires off the wheels, you won't know the extent of the rust.

A wheel with holes rusted through or the stem area rotted away will not hold a tube without damaging it.

If the wheel is severely rusted, the choice is to repair it by cutting out the rust and welding in new steel, or replace the wheel.

I would ship it with only air, no need paying extra shipping costs, let them refill the tires if they desire.
 
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