Taking despots when selling stuff

I put the little massey up for sell had a
bunch of different offers and people
trying to low ball offer and people
wanting me to throw in pieces of
equipment that I don't have and plus
delivery.
A guy came to me and asked if he paid a
deposit could I hold it until 1st week of
February we wrote it up and signed it.
I normally would not have considered it
but I decided it was better than trying to
meet with everyone and them offer a less
than half price offer.

So I did take the deposit.


Do yal ever take deposit to hold
something?

Doesn't it get old trying to sell stuff
everyone low balling and wanting extra
stuff for free that was not pictured or
mentioned or delivered for free?


I just get so tired of trying to sell
stuff.

A farmer near me sells hay. He has a fair price on it. When a buyer calls and asks how much? He tells them his price. When the try to low ball him, he hangs up. They call back, they low ball again, he hands up. They call back, they low ball again, he hands up. They call back, they low ball again, he hands up. Sooner or later they figure it out and either pay the farmer his price or they quit calling. Either way he says he is happy.

Yes I have taken deposits now and then and held items for a few weeks. So far, knock on wood, it has worked out pretty well.

I usually price my stuff fairly and advertise at a firm price. Dealing with those who can't read is just a fact of life when wheeling and dealing. If you think selling ag related stuff is bad try selling a cheap car, that brings out all the squirrels.

I also sell horse hay but do not take many phone calls and request they use texts. Saves a lot of time answering phone calls when I'm busy and I don't negotiate on my hay prices.

(quoted from post at 19:27:59 01/07/21) I put the little massey up for sell had a
bunch of different offers and people
trying to low ball offer and people
wanting me to throw in pieces of
equipment that I don't have and plus
delivery.
A guy came to me and asked if he paid a
deposit could I hold it until 1st week of
February we wrote it up and signed it.
I normally would not have considered it
but I decided it was better than trying to
meet with everyone and them offer a less
than half price offer.

So I did take the deposit.


Do yal ever take deposit to hold
something?

Doesn't it get old trying to sell stuff
everyone low balling and wanting extra
stuff for free that was not pictured or
mentioned or delivered for free?


I just get so tired of trying to sell
stuff.

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Have the buyer sign a contract that the item must be paid for in full by a certain date or their deposit will be returned to them minus a 10% to 30% fee, whatever is legal where you are and spelled out in the paperwork they signed.

Keep their exact contact info on file and if they don't fulfill their end of the deal send them a bank check or money order for the remaining balance by trackable mail and consider the deal "done".

I will but when I write it up there is a pick up date and if not picked by that date the deposit is forfeited.Only take CASH deposits.

A guy was going to buy a car from me. First he wanted me to fix the brakes. So I did, and I never saw him again. Before I put money into the car, I should have had some of his money in my pocket. He would have came back had I gotten a deposit.

When I place an ad or fliers for my hay I give my cel number and say text only. But they still call. When they say I can get it for .... I say then buy it there. They'll call back when they see the junk hay.

got paid in full once and the guys trailer wasn't big enough said he'd be back, that was 4 years ago haven't seen him since

Selling big items can be a pain in the rear. I think you have to judge the individual and the situation. I had a guy agree to buy a car, offered what I asked but called later and said he wouldn't be able to pick it up for a week because work was sending him out of town. Asked if I would hold it, but understood if I wouldn't. The car wasn't in the way so I figured no big deal and didn't worry about a deposit or paperwork. He came and got the car as he said.

He seemed honest and I figured it was easier than dealing with all of the low ball offers and inviting others to my property. I probably got lucky, but it would be miserable to always assume the worst.

To me cash forfeitable deposit and terms spelled out. I have been on the buying end of "hold it for me" and know that sometimes something pops up, totally unexpected and you have to grab it....procrastination means lost purchase...so I have asked for and have been lucky. I always tried to add a "carrot" to the offering to sweeten the deal which helps, and no haggling or lowballing....paying asked price.

If I am in the position to immediately come and make a deal, I have to "haggle" or no deal.....haggling is just part of it and the fun part.

Won't be too many years that I will start selling off what I have accumulated over 40+ years and I'm not sure how I'm going to manage that. Will worry about it when the time comes. Auction is possible to avoid all the low ballers and tie kickers, or call up the local used tractor dealer and he will pick it all up at half it's worth since he has to make a living and I understand that. Having done that in the past, what chaps me is that I stupidly think I am through with a piece of equipment and sell it to him for half price, usually my stuff is in top notch condition, and come back later needing one and have to go back to him and pay 2x and get ½ the implement.

Probably 15 years ago I sold a 2 bottom
trip lift pull type plow here on YT. A
fellow who lived a long distance away
sent me a good check and I never heard
from him again and the contact numbers
were disconnected. 5-6 years ago I tired
of looking at it and listed it here
again. Sold it and was sent a check but
it is still sitting here. Next check will
come from a scrap yard in the spring when
I clean up the junk pile.

Lol, try selling a used mobile home!

despot
/ˈdespət/
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noun
plural noun: despots
a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way.

That was just a scam. Boy did he sucker you big time. LOL He is probably still chuckling to himself.

I would just keep selling that plow every few years. LOL Bill

After the second call. why doesn't he just block the number instead of holding his hands in the air?

> a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way.

Sometimes buyers and sellers act like despots.

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You need to have exceptional patience if you want to sell anything.

90% of people are going to try to lowball you, jerk you around, ask for things that you are not offering, etc.. That's just how it is.

The only way you can avoid it is to not sell anything, ever. Keep it all and let the auctioneer deal with it after you die.

I thought the misspelling in the original post and then your reply is very timely this week Carlmac .... "a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way." Maybe just a coincidence but I had a good laugh .....

Well done !!!

len in Michigan--I PAID A GUY 500.00 to take a mobile home this past summer...

(quoted from post at 13:06:59 01/08/21) I thought the misspelling in the original post and then your reply is very timely this week Carlmac .... "a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way." Maybe just a coincidence but I had a good laugh .....

Well done !!!

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Nope, no coincidence at all.

Auto correct strikes again. I can get them if it is instantaneous but sometimes an auto correct does not hit until just before posting. Some people can edit on this board but I have yet to find a way given the system I am on.

Are you the new spelling police?

I am sure that everybody that read this post knew what the poster meant. EVERYBODY makes typos and mistakes in
spelling from time to time. Correcting them all would be a lifetime task that would never end. On these forums, we
are dealing with mostly older farmers with levels of education that range from college degrees to 8th grade
dropouts.

If you know what they mean, leave them alone. Don't be a jerk.

took deposits when i sold seed handling equipment, sometimes works most time not had one put down 4000.00 never did come back, i have deposit clause not picked up in 6 months deposit is forfeit.. if you do not like selling stuff than simply do not do it. take to auction site drop off and be done with it. thats what we had to do with anything in jd green that got traded in just never could resell that color

(quoted from post at 14:41:03 01/08/21) Are you the new spelling police?

I am sure that everybody that read this post knew what the poster meant. EVERYBODY makes typos and mistakes in
spelling from time to time. Correcting them all would be a lifetime task that would never end. On these forums, we
are dealing with mostly older farmers with levels of education that range from college degrees to 8th grade
dropouts.

If you know what they mean, leave them alone. Don't be a jerk.

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Yep. I'll be watching you.

JIM ...... with all due respoect, I'd say you missed the point of Carlmac's post. It really wasn't to make note of the spelling error like you thought. If you read his definition over a few times, you'll get what I refer to.

Bordering on a prohibited topic? Like the handful of posts that were poofed this week on Tales?

(quoted from post at 14:41:03 01/08/21) Are you the new spelling police?

I am sure that everybody that read this post knew what the poster meant. EVERYBODY makes typos and mistakes in
spelling from time to time. Correcting them all would be a lifetime task that would never end. On these forums, we
are dealing with mostly older farmers with levels of education that range from college degrees to 8th grade
dropouts.

If you know what they mean, leave them alone. Don't be a jerk.

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Listen, if I was going to police spelling and grammar here I would need a fairly large crew to keep up with it. Then maybe it would still be too big of a job.

The point was clearly recognized by a couple of posters.

Yeah, I guess so. I see a couple already today have been zapped, cleverly disguised as something else but knowing that somebody would say something nasty or do some name-calling, which of course happened.

Create terms for the sale, either in a letter or e-mail, or even a text. If a deposit check is sent, cash it immediately. That way, the buyer has less leverage to cancel the sale without you knowing. Make arrangements for pick-up and final payment. Put a clause in the agreement that if the item is not picked up by a certain date, the deposit will not be refunded and the item will be re-listed. If it bothers you keeping the money, give it to a charity.

People have to be responsible for themselves. If they can't follow up on their agreement, you have a document trail that says they didn't follow the agreement.

Selling items on Facebook Marketplace, once an agreed upon pick up time is set, I tell folks that if you are an hour late with out notice, it'll get re-listed, and their deal is cancelled. I also get their name and phone number, which gets rid if the anominity(sp?) protection.

Some buyers are asses. There are a lot of good people still out there though.

Pete

Just my opinion.

I feel that once you take a deposit, you have an obligation to the buyer. If you do not trust the person you are dealing with enough to enter into a mutual obligation, then don't do it. Simple as that.

Everybody has a story - sob story or otherwise as to why they cannot hold up their end of an agreement. Once you enter into such an agreement, you are stuck with the outcome - good or bad. For the most part, I avoid getting too involved.

Sheesh, and all along I thought it meant "to take the spots off of a thing,,,,,,,, ;-) gm

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]A guy came to me and asked if he paid a [u:654c4848f0]deposit[/u:654c4848f0][/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]So I did take the [u:654c4848f0]deposit[/u:654c4848f0][/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Do yal ever take [u:654c4848f0]deposit[/u:654c4848f0] to hold something[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

Those are 3 direct quotes from [b:654c4848f0]Graveyard 1984[/b:654c4848f0] using the correct spelling of the word [b:654c4848f0]deposit[/b:654c4848f0].

He is responsible for the typographical error in the spelling [b:654c4848f0]deposit[/b:654c4848f0] in the [b:654c4848f0]Subject:[/b:654c4848f0] text box.

Now that [b:654c4848f0]Graveyard 1984[/b:654c4848f0] has been castigated for his spelling, lets deflect to a few alleged grammatical inconsistencies in response to his typographical error.

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0] despot

/ˈdespət/

Learn to pronounce

noun

plural noun: despots

a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way.[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

Note the lowercase letter <BIG>[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]a[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]</BIG> in the last paragraph in the response to [b:654c4848f0]Graveyard 1984[/b:654c4848f0]'s typographical error.

Reviewed the [b:654c4848f0]<a href="https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/academic_writing/paragraphs_and_paragraphing/index.html">PURDUE UNIVERSITY Purdue Online Writing Lab COLLEGE OF abundant ARTS On Paragraphs What is a paragraph?</a>[/b:654c4848f0] web page.

Note that each new idea in the response has its own paragraph</b>.

The [b:654c4848f0]Message:[/b:654c4848f0] text box on these YT forums use HTML code for formatting.

HTML code will not capitalize the first letter of a line even though it may also be the first letter of a paragraph.

Take a look at the illustration below of <a href="http://www.web-source.net/html_codes_chart.htm#paragraph">examples of HTML</a> paragraph code.



<a href="https://www.scribbr.com/language-rules/what-is-proofreading/">Proofreading</a> may have prevented this simple grammatical error.

Note the comma between the word [b:654c4848f0]power[/b:654c4848f0] and the word [b:654c4848f0]typically[/b:654c4848f0] in response to [b:654c4848f0]Graveyard 1984[/b:654c4848f0]'s typographical error.

The use of a <a href="https://writing.wisc.edu/handbook/grammarpunct/semicolons/">semicolon</a> emphasizes a stronger style mark between the text "[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]a ruler or other person who holds absolute power[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]" and the text "[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]".

What grieves me most in both the original post and the response is the spelling error illustrated in the paragraph below.

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Do [u:654c4848f0]<a href="https://www.southernliving.com/culture/yall-or-ya-ll">yal</a>[/u:654c4848f0] ever take deposit to hold something[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

As a Southerner, I forgive y'all and take no offense to that cultural misspelling error.

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Listen, if I was going to police spelling and grammar here I would need a fairly large crew to keep up with it[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

(quoted from post at 00:07:01 01/09/21) "[b:385631c7ed][i:385631c7ed]Listen, if I was going to police spelling and grammar here I would need a fairly large crew to keep up with it[/i:385631c7ed][/b:385631c7ed]"

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LOL. Another one that didn't get it.

"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]Another one that didn't get it[/b:654c4848f0][/i:654c4848f0]"

What some folks did get on Tractor Tales was a <a href="https://seeken.org/why-first-impressions-are-important/">first impression</a> from responses of a new member.

Perhaps some folks would be interested in what kinds of tractors a new member may have.

Perhaps some folks would be interested in what tractor questions a new member may have.

Perhaps some folks would be interested in what tractor experience a new member may have.

There is a vast amount of knowledge and experience on these forums.



This is an excellent website to share what you know and learn what you need.

Well I haven't gotten his joke yet and I am not worried about it, he must have thought he was funny but............

(quoted from post at 11:01:37 01/08/21) Bordering on a prohibited topic? Like the handful of posts that were poofed this week on Tales?

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jimg, my opinion is that it can go either way and that it is no big deal. Misspellings are very common, we all know that, Sometimes they bring a chuckle, we all know that and it is to be expected that one of that sort will draw a comment. It doesn't need to get anyones hackles up. It is all in fun if you are someone who can laugh.

(quoted from post at 03:32:16 01/09/21) "[b:98679c2871][i:98679c2871]Another one that didn't get it[/b:98679c2871][/i:98679c2871]"

What some folks did get on Tractor Tales was a &lt;a href="https://seeken.org/why-first-impressions-are-important/"&gt;first impression&lt;/a&gt; from responses of a new member.

Perhaps some folks would be interested in what kinds of tractors a new member may have.

Perhaps some folks would be interested in what tractor questions a new member may have.

Perhaps some folks would be interested in what tractor experience a new member may have.

There is a vast amount of knowledge and experience on these forums.


This is an excellent website to share what you know and learn what you need.

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This new member has a couple of Fergies and an old Workbull 202 loader/backhoe.

This new member doesn't have any tractor related questions to ask. This new member is a retired mechanic and knows how to fix his tractors.

This new member has been around tractors and much other equipment, farm and industrial, for many years.

This new member has shared his knowledge which was ignored.

There is indeed knowledge and experience on these forums, some good and some not so good.

This new member says what he thinks, which if I read this place right, and I think I do, is common and encouraged.

This new member doesn't really care if your knickers are twisted.

Anything else?

Welcome to the forums here on YT.

Sounds like you've come to the right place.

Figure that knickers are just fine for folks that choose to wear them.

Once again, welcome to the forums.

(quoted from post at 10:06:51 01/09/21) Welcome to the forums here on YT.

Sounds like you've come to the right place.

Figure that knickers are just fine for folks that choose to wear them.

Once again, welcome to the forums.

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Well alright then.

Thanks.

Just sell the stuff to the nearest Despot. They have money , them Despots.

(quoted from post at 13:22:18 01/08/21) Lol, try selling a used mobile home!

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My MIL has been trying to sell her motorhome for almost five years.