12 volt dc motor speed control for honey extractor?

Maybe a little off tractor topic, but with the expertise here, I thought I would get your opinions.

I'm a beekeeper, and I have a 9 frame spinning extractor that is currently hand cranked. I wanted to put an electric motor on it to spin the honey, but the store bought version is $800. I use 12 volt permanent magnet 1/3 HP 600 rpm motors in my business on Hannay hose reels. The replacement motor is a Nidec P56AN230. These motors pull 20 amps under normal load, and 40 amps when stalled. They seem like the perfect option, but I need the ability to slowly raise the rpm's from zero to 600 as the honey frames empty and the load becomes balanced, then let it run at 600 rpm for maybe 5 minutes until the frames are empty. I looked into a 115AC to 12v DC motor controller, but one that can handle 20 amps is $400. I looked into rheostats that can handle 20 amps, but they cost over $100. Plus, I'm not exactly sure how many ohms I need, despite trying to use Ohm's Law. The motor has .7 ohms of resistance when I measure across the leads.

I can either use a device that converts 115V AC to 12V DC, or just use a 12 volt battery.

Is there a simple and cheap way to do this?

Thanks in advance.
 
(quoted from post at 18:32:15 12/17/20) Maybe a little off tractor topic, but with the expertise here, I thought I would get your opinions.

I'm a beekeeper, and I have a 9 frame spinning extractor that is currently hand cranked. I wanted to put an electric motor on it to spin the honey, but the store bought version is $800. I use 12 volt permanent magnet 1/3 HP 600 rpm motors in my business on Hannay hose reels. The replacement motor is a Nidec P56AN230. These motors pull 20 amps under normal load, and 40 amps when stalled. They seem like the perfect option, but I need the ability to slowly raise the rpm's from zero to 600 as the honey frames empty and the load becomes balanced, then let it run at 600 rpm for maybe 5 minutes until the frames are empty. I looked into a 115AC to 12v DC motor controller, but one that can handle 20 amps is $400. I looked into rheostats that can handle 20 amps, but they cost over $100. Plus, I'm not exactly sure how many ohms I need, despite trying to use Ohm's Law. The motor has .7 ohms of resistance when I measure across the leads.

I can either use a device that converts 115V AC to 12V DC, or just use a 12 volt battery.

Is there a simple and cheap way to do this?

Thanks in advance.
use a Variac on the low current AC input to a cheap/old time/non-automatic battery charger (has only transformer & rectifiers). Output has 120Hz ripple but motor doesn't care.
 
Have you given any thought to using pulleys and a different motor that may draw less amps? That may allow you more options for motor speed control. Not sure how much force is needed to spin 9 frames.
 
It takes almost no torque to spin the frames once they get moving. It is easily done with a hand crank, but then you are stuck there cranking.
 
Guess my question is why use a dc motor that draws 20 amps? Do you have 110 volt readily available or is a 12 volt battery your only power source?
 
A fluid coupling will do what you want. In the 60s I worked in an Orchard with an extractor like yours. (i ran the device for one season of harvesting honey from 30 colonies. Some 200 gallons IIRC. it used this type of drive. with a 1/2hp 1750rpm motor and pulleys to make the shaft turn at the speed you now input by hand. The fluid coul=pling was on the motor. Jim
couplings
 
A fluid coupling will do what you want. In the 60s I worked in an Orchard with an extractor like yours. (i ran the device for one season of harvesting honey from 30 colonies. Some 200 gallons IIRC. it used this type of drive. with a 1/2hp 1750rpm motor and pulleys to make the shaft turn at the speed you now input by hand. The fluid coul=pling was on the motor. Jim
couplings
one source of coupling
 
Why don't you use a variable speed 1/2 inch drill or even a battery operated one. The speed should be about right.
 
david, i use a maxant 4 frame manual extractor. when we extract, my wife and daughter take turns spinning. what may work for him is a half inch drive variable speed electric drill. you can throttle the trigger up to get things going, and the gear box, at least on my extractor will free wheel, kind of like an over run coupler on a pto. id make a trip to harbor freight and pick up an inexpensive drill, prolly about 35 dollars and give it a whirl........or spin!
 
I have a push button desk fan, I use for a tumbler, added a pulley on the end of shaft, I use large O-ring for belt, low speed works fine. size of pulley, can change speed, has more power than needed.
 
What you probably want is a pulse-width modulation control. Google "12V dc PWM motor controller" and you'll find a bunch. Here's one rated at 30 amps for thirty bucks on Amazon.

The reason conventional linear controllers and rheostats are so expensive is they have to dissipate a lot of power, particular at medium settings. PWM controllers use solid-state switches to turn power on and off very rapidly, so they don't avoid operating at points where there's a lot of power to dissipate.
30A PWM controller
 
Have you thought about trying a 12 volt electric trolling motor from a boat.

You would get everything you need;

Motor
Speed controller
Wiring
Reversible

Used ones can be found pretty cheap.
 
The Woodmizer sawmill I had had a variable speed motor on the carriage feed. It pulsed the ground to control the feed, speed.
 

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