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Hello new to the site I bought a John deere 60 in the spring did the usual new plugs,wires,battery,points,condenser,distributor it has spark and good compression and is getting gas to the carb. I was told if the old tractors had spark and gas they run forever but mine will not fire didn't know if anyone had ideas?
 
I'm not experienced with the JD 60, but if you have compression, and fuel, then your spark is either not there, or not there at the
correct time. A common problem lately is/are bad condensors right out of the box, hope you saved the old one. Check at the plug by
pulling the wire should be spark there. There are trouble shooting guides in the archives, do a search in modern view. You will get
the advice from people much more knowledgeable than me. Working on your tractor can be frustrating, but even in frustration its fun,
in my opinion. gobble
 
no it sat outside for 6yrs the guy I got it from drove it home and parked it on his lawn the clutch was stuck and brakes.
 
yea the only thing I can think of it might be out of time which I have no idea how to do that. My first 2cylinder grew up a 41 farmall m great tractor
 
Not likely if it was running before. Distributor I would say. Is that the row
crop or standard tractor ? Pull the plugs out and check the timing. Get #1
cyl. At tdc on compression then look if the rotor is pointing to that wire ,
squirt some gas in the cyls and it should start if you have spark. It’s most
luckily the carb needs a cleaning
 
(quoted from post at 20:50:39 11/11/20) Not likely if it was running before. Distributor I would say. Is that the row
crop or standard tractor ? Pull the plugs out and check the timing. Get #1
cyl. At tdc on compression then look if the rotor is pointing to that wire ,
squirt some gas in the cyls and it should start if you have spark. It s most
luckily the carb needs a cleaning
it's a standard tractor 1954 I'll try that I'm sure its something simple thanks for the help.
 
"did the usual new plugs,wires,battery,points,condenser"

I don't know what's "usual" about that except perhaps to you, and unless any of those parts were truly "bad" you went backwards by replacing them with today's parts, likely from "The Land of Almost Right".

How are you checking spark, there's "spark", and there's spark "hot" enough to actually make and engine fire and run.

If in fact you have a reasonably "hot" spark, (with the ignition switch "off") remove the sparkplugs and squirt a little gasoline in each cylinder, then replace the sparkplugs and install the wires and see if it will fire.

If it DOES, until the gasoline squirted in the cylinders is burnt up likely you have a carburetor issue.

Just because there's a good flow of gasoline TO the carburetor doesn't mean it's getting THROUGH the carburetor and to the cylinders.
 
A shot (maybe one second) of ether down the carb and try it. It should fire and run for a half second or so if it has spark and is in time. Don't go overboard with the
ether.
 
"[b:654c4848f0][i:654c4848f0]it might be out of time which I have no idea how to do that[/i:654c4848f0][/b:654c4848f0]"

Welcome to the YT forum.

There is also the <a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/jd/wwwboard1.html">John Deere</a> forum on this website to ask questions concerning your Model 60 tractor.

Pure speculation on my part, but your Model 60 tractor probably has the same timing method as the Model 70 tractor.

Reviewed the [b:654c4848f0]OPERATOR'S MANUAL OM-R2035R JOHN DEERE TRACTOR MODEL 70 SERIES[/b:654c4848f0] under the [b:654c4848f0]IGNITION SYSTEM[/b:654c4848f0] section under the [b:654c4848f0]INSTALLING AND TIMING DISTRIBUTOR ON GASOLINE TRACTOR[/b:654c4848f0] on pages 87 – 88.

“[i:654c4848f0]Installing the distributor after it has been removed from the tractor can be done easily as follows:

First, remove the spark plug on the flywheel side.

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Place your finger over the hole and rotate the flywheel in the running direction until you feel pressure of air in the cylinder.

Continue turning the flywheel slowly until the “10° ATDC” mark, stamped on the flywheel rim, lines with the notches in the timing hole in the flywheel cover.

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In this position the slot in the coupling on the governor shaft will be horizontal.

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Turn the arm to a vertical position.

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This places the coupling lugs of the distributor to line with the slot on the governor shaft and in correct firing position for No. 1 cylinder.

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Mount distributor and gasket on governor case, making sure driving lugs engage slots on governor drive coupling.

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A gasket must be used between distributor and governor case.

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After tightening the cap screws firmly with fingers, connect battery ground strap, switch-to-distributor lead, and coil-to-distributor lead.

Rotate top of distributor approximately one inch toward front of tractor.

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Install cover on distributor and insert a suitable wire in top terminal of cover.

Bend this wire to within 1/8-inch of some metal part of the tractor.

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After making sure that the “10° ATDC” mark on the flywheel rim is still lined up with the notches on the timing hole in the flywheel cover turn on the ignition and slowly tap the top of the distributor toward the rear of the tractor until a spark is produced between the wire and a metallic part of the tractor.

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Tighten cap screws holding distributor to governor case and install spark plug cables.

Left hand spark plug cable must be installed in upper distributor cap terminal.[/i:654c4848f0]”

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Hope this helps.
 
I had a friend with an A he said it would it pop but not run. He had a friend that was a John Deere Engineer, he could not figure it out. Tractor came to my place, among other things wrong the spark plug
wires were reversed. Make sure that is not your problem
 
As I read all replies here and you say it has sat for quite some time and that it has compression. I have run in to that problem various times also. Squirt some oil into the spark plug holes and then turn I over a few revolutions with the starter, put plugs back in and fire it up. Cyl. walls are dry from sitting and the oil will create more compression to suck the fuel that you need. This has worked for me. Good luck.
 
(quoted from post at 14:04:15 11/12/20) As I read all replies here and you say it has sat for quite some time and that it has compression. I have run in to that problem various times also. Squirt some oil into the spark plug holes and then turn I over a few revolutions with the starter, put plugs back in and fire it up. Cyl. walls are dry from sitting and the oil will create more compression to suck the fuel that you need. This has worked for me. Good luck.

thanks for the help I haven't tried this yet I appreciate the pictures that helps alot I can see what its suppose to look like
 
(quoted from post at 14:04:15 11/12/20) As I read all replies here and you say it has sat for quite some time and that it has compression. I have run in to that problem various times also. Squirt some oil into the spark plug holes and then turn I over a few revolutions with the starter, put plugs back in and fire it up. Cyl. walls are dry from sitting and the oil will create more compression to suck the fuel that you need. This has worked for me. Good luck.


I was wondering what is the firing order on a john deere 60? Is it left or right?
 

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