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I''m thinking the time may have finally arrived...

wore out

wore out

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for the owners of these Forums to finally give up and switch to current Forum software that actually works.

WHAT a mess today, between double posts and broken threads with posts splattered all over!

Heck, with any luck Kim and Chris might even get a weekend off once in a while if the site worked!
 
I listen to conservative talk radio during the day. Sometimes a get a little exasperated by the fact that have so many commercials, just one after another. But when I do
get a little cranky I remind myself that I don't have to pay one thin dime to listen to them. I don't have anything invested in the programming, I just tune in and enjoy
what I enjoy. Sometimes I have to remind myself of who owns the radio station and who is simply a complimentary user.

Tom in TN
 
(quoted from post at 02:27:03 11/02/20) Better to just eliminate modern view
entirely.
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A week after classic is gone you will have forgotten that it ever existed.
 
I admit I prefer "classic", but I would certainly switch to "modern" if classic went away, and I won't argue that YT should continue to maintain both interfaces. It's up to our generous hosts to make the call to keep classic or dump it.
 
Ive been here longer them many others (before 911) and haven't used modern view. If it ain't broke don't fix it but its NOT my site to run
and control. Use whatever one likes best.

John T
 
I prefer classic. Everything stays in order and easier to follow especially when responding to someone half way down the thread list. I guess I could adapt to modern but don't really like it. Tom
 
I think the problem is on your end. I use classic all the time although I average less than one post per day. I've never
experienced the problems you cite.
 
Seems to me that some time ago, Chris explained that so-called modern view was actually older than classic view.

Then there is this thing with compatibility to phones. Special characters and all. I fail to see why we need much more than text, pictures, and punctuation to conduct a forum. The extra "bells and whistles" only serve to create more problems than they solve.

Then there is the issue of who runs this system - for free to users.

Personally, I think we should all step back and stop trying to tell our hosts how to run their system. Instead, we should be thanking them for making this valuable resource available to us at no cost.

So, how about a nice round of applause for Kim and Chris!!
 
I'm going to take a little different approach here.

I think we should THANK Chris & Kim for everything they do here. Without them & there hard work this site would not exist.

Chris & Kim Thank You Gerald
 
If my memory is correct, it seems that problems didn't surface until the Modern View showed up. Remind me ..... what are the advantages of the modern view? Or the disadvantages of the Classic View?

Scrolling through pages when revisiting a popular thread to find the latest reply wouldn't be one of them I don't think.
 
They go to all Modern and there will be a bunch of us old dudes that won,t be here. To each his own.
Hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
 
Bruce, maybe. I know on modern I can read phone upright. With classic I have to hold phone sideways and shrink the page to read it... Won't all fit on page zoomed out where it's readable.
 
(quoted from post at 06:33:54 11/02/20) Whenever I go to Modern (not often) the posts seem out of order and hard to follow. When I see "go to Modern View" nothing there.
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The posts are in perfect order. The ones with the most recent replies are on top. This is how every other forum site on the Internet works.

In classic view if someone replies to a thread that was started three days ago, you have to sift down through 7 pages of posts to find out, and read the reply. They are kept in the order that the original post was made.

The disadvantage to modern is a controversial thread will tend to linger on top and go on much longer because it's right there on top where everyone can see it, while on classic it gets quickly pushed back to page 12 and nobody has the ambition to go find it.

As I have said MANY times, keeping the two in sync is quite the programming feat, as the classic forum software is ANCIENT. They do get out of sync once in a while, but it seems like the admins know how to fix it.
 

No dog is too old to learn new tricks.

You people need to get out more. If you'd broaden your horizons a bit and visit other forums beside this one you'd see how a properly set up modern forum is supposed to work, as that's all anyone else uses anymore. The reason this one is so cobbled up is they're trying to make the two formats run simultaneously, which is not going to happen. That's been explained on here numerous times. Chris goes through it on the Site Comments forum every other week. But I guess if you choose to ignore that it's up to you.
As for me, I'd be happy if they changed it over this afternoon! It can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned!
 
(quoted from post at 09:42:48 11/02/20) They go to all Modern and there will be a bunch of us old dudes that won,t be here. To each his own.
Hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
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dle threat, just like all those that will leave America depending on election outcome in 2016 or today. Don't be too old to learn.
 
(quoted from post at 23:39:51 11/01/20) for the owners of these Forums to finally give up and switch to current Forum software that actually works.

WHAT a mess today, between double posts and broken threads with posts splattered all over!

Heck, with any luck Kim and Chris might even get a weekend off once in a while if the site worked!
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The time arrived ten years ago, but I am happy to use this site any way the owners see fit. All the guys who claim they will leave if obsolete view goes away are blowing smoke. They will adapt if they have to.
 


The tiny differences really have nothing to do with the debate between classic and modern. What self respecting old f#hrt in his right mind would advocate for replacing ANYTHING old with something modern no matter how much better it may work?
 
(quoted from post at 08:32:18 11/02/20)

The tiny differences really have nothing to do with the debate between classic and modern. What self respecting old f#hrt in his right mind would advocate for replacing ANYTHING old with something modern no matter how much better it may work?
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Most of these old farts are driving 2010 or newer vehicles. If they can figure out automatic transmissions, they can figure out modern view
 
Some day, the owners of Yesterdays Tractors, the profit generating side that provides a paycheck to Kim and Chris are going to wave the red flag.
Hopefully at that time the owners of this site will be gracious enough to launch a truely up to date forum format using readily available, already tweeked software from a forum software company
Saving countless hours and $$ required to constantly "fix" both classic and modern view forums we have here now. And thus allowing Chris and Kim to sell tractor parts instead.

You will notice that these two forums at YT contain no advertising sidebars. YT does not even show the things they sell on these forums, unlike all other similar forums.
That will likely change here also with up to date software.
 
(quoted from post at 11:35:10 11/02/20) Dump modern and the problem would go away. Problem wasn't here before modern was put in
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ikewise, dump classic & problems will go away. :lol:
 
I agree. I have tried to use modern but the post seem out of order and hard to tell what is going on plus if you replay to a person like I am you in modern it gets mixed up
 
(quoted from post at 12:35:10 11/02/20) Dump modern and the problem would go away. Problem wasn't here before modern was put in
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Back in the day, somebody said the problems with rubber tires on tractors would go away too.
If they just stayed with steel tires.
 
(quoted from post at 11:57:35 11/02/20)
(quoted from post at 12:35:10 11/02/20) Dump modern and the problem would go away. Problem wasn't here before modern was put in
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Back in the day, somebody said the problems with rubber tires on tractors would go away too.
If they just stayed with steel tires.
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ell, those who stayed with steel didn't have flats.......just got body beat up! Gotta weigh + and -
 
I think you are right.
We need to use a forum that works.
So look at the post on this page.
Did you notice all the double post are from people that use modern view.
People using classic view are not having double posting problems.

So lets dump modern and the problem will be solved.
 
I don know what surprises me more. That there are people that actually think classic view is easier, or that this site still uses this antiquated, crappy software to appease these people. Once they finally update to normal forum software, they are going to wish they had done it years ago.
 
What I see there are a lot of people just like the people you complain about.
This site cost you nothing , But you want to change it and have it your way.
Just be thankful that we have what we have and live with it. LIFE IS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
 
(quoted from post at 16:34:59 11/02/20) What I see there are a lot of people just like the people you complain about.
This site cost you nothing , But you want to change it and have it your way.
Just be thankful that we have what we have and live with it. LIFE IS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
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...but that's not the "progressive's" way....need control over everyone else, you know?
:twisted:
 
(quoted from post at 16:34:59 11/02/20) What I see there are a lot of people just like the people you complain about.
This site cost you nothing , But you want to change it and have it your way.
Just be thankful that we have what we have and live with it. LIFE IS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
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Is your reading comprehension that bad, or are you making things up? It would appear the only ones crying about wanting things their way are the classic users. I could care less, it works fine for me. The site owners should do it for THEM. It would save them a ton of head aches. Heaven forbid some of you have to try something different.
 
This is for MJMJ but the other post doesn't work ....

MJMJ ..... if you could care less, then why are you posting? Just care less and try not to be careless. Meanwhile, your handle (or whatever you want to call it) is repeating itself .... why not just use MJ instead of MJMJ? Or maybe it is MJ and the Modern View is turning it into MJMJ? Or maybe you have a name like Michael James Marvin Jenkins or something like that and MJMJH are your initials? I'd just stick with MJ if I were you. Actually I too could care less to be honest, and I'm never careless.

Crazy Horse Crazy Horse ....... LOL LOL !!!
 
OK, I tried it. I gave it a fair try for a couple of weeks.

I DON'T LIKE MODERN VIEW!!

OK? If others prefer it, so be it. I found it top be uncomfortable and difficult to navigate. I LIKE classic view. You use what you like and I will use what I like.

'Nuff said!
 
(quoted from post at 17:49:00 11/02/20)
(quoted from post at 16:34:59 11/02/20) What I see there are a lot of people just like the people you complain about.
This site cost you nothing , But you want to change it and have it your way.
Just be thankful that we have what we have and live with it. LIFE IS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
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Is your reading comprehension that bad, or are you making things up? It would appear the only ones crying about wanting things their way are the classic users. I could care less, it works fine for me. The site owners should do it for THEM. It would save them a ton of head aches. Heaven forbid some of you have to try something different.
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My point is I do not care one way or another what we use. It is not our decision. Just live with what we get or start your own site.
 
(quoted from post at 18:38:10 11/06/20)
(quoted from post at 17:49:00 11/02/20)
(quoted from post at 16:34:59 11/02/20) What I see there are a lot of people just like the people you complain about.
This site cost you nothing , But you want to change it and have it your way.
Just be thankful that we have what we have and live with it. LIFE IS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
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Is your reading comprehension that bad, or are you making things up? It would appear the only ones crying about wanting things their way are the classic users. I could care less, it works fine for me. The site owners should do it for THEM. It would save them a ton of head aches. Heaven forbid some of you have to try something different.
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My point is I do not care one way or another what we use. It is not our decision. Just live with what we get or start your own site.
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Muleboss, I see a lot of opinions being voiced in this thread just as we do here day in and day out, but I don't see that anyone is claiming that it is their decision :?
 

If anyone asks me, I'd dump Classic view like a hot rock. Best thing I ever did was go to Modern view. Much, much easier to use IMO.
 
(quoted from post at 23:39:51 11/01/20) for the owners of these Forums to finally give up and switch to current Forum software that actually works.

WHAT a mess today, between double posts and broken threads with posts splattered all over!

Heck, with any luck Kim and Chris might even get a weekend off once in a while if the site worked!
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here are settings for how your post are laid out, what ever your preference. For me Modern is much more organized. Hot topics stay at the top till they play out on there own. If I ask a question I like to read all the post, even the responses that don't have much to do with the topic. Someone may have a point of view that helps you figure things out. Granted there are a few folks that have earned the right to be skipped.

The problem I have is my own communication skills. Top that off with others lack of reading comprehension and you have a conversation that wanders. At times folks don't respect others point of view and will attempt to force there own ideas. Very simple questions go unanswered and these forums get too frustrating to use.
 
I use modern view. This forum works just fine for me. There are a couple things that have issues, but it's not really a big deal. No complaints here.
 
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