Looking into buying a deutz tractor want info

Looking at a 4006 deutz I know there air cooled have also been told they don't give alot of problems so I want the good and bad do they start good at cold temps? Are manuals available in English ? How do the hydraulics hold up it will split wood and feed hay so 3point& hydraulics will see alot of use. When they breakdown are parts hard to find also I have been told most mechanics in my area won't or don't have the tools to fix anybody else have this issue

I have a friend that uses Deutz and he is happy.
There is a place just across the border in NC that handles parts.
That might be handy for you also.
Richard in NW SC

Dont know a thing.... But an older man from Mischigan sold his farm there and bought a ranch here in western Colorado. He brought his 4 Deutz tractors with
him.One was a big 100+ model with a cab.He loved em.However when he sold out,they brought practicly nothing as no one here had ever seen one before.They had
lots of lookers,but no one wanted to own one.

You should be able to get any parts through AGCO,they own Duetz.I have always heard good about them,but i don't have any first
hand experience with one.

Rock

Agco has nothing to do with Deutz. What little parts Agco offers yet for Deutz Allis tractors is very little and parts are expensive compared to buying the parts from a Deutz dealer.

I've been told that they are so expertly
machined that they do not need head
gaskets.

(quoted from post at 06:29:56 09/29/20) I have a friend that uses Deutz and he is happy.
There is a place just across the border in NC that handles parts.
That might be handy for you also.
Richard in NW SC

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thank you do u happen to know where in NC or a name

You are correct that AGCO and Deutz are two completely different companies. AGCO was formed in 1990 when a group of investors purchased the Deutz-Allis and Gleaner brands and product lines from the Klockner-Humboldt-Deutz company. (Deutz-Allis was just a subsidiary of KDH - it wasn't the whole company.) However, KHD (now Deutz-Fahr) maintained ownership of the Deutz branded tractors which they still have today. The Deutz 4006 tractor was built in the late 60s to early 70s, long before KHD purchased Allis-Chalmers, and it was never part of the Deutz-Allis brand that eventually became part of AGCO. Simply put, AGCO would have no parts support for a tractor branded just as Deutz.

I think this is it.

Ward Bros. Tractor & Salvage
1444 PACE RD, HENDERSONVLLE, NC 28792

I just bought a used JD from a company that is opening a Deutz-Fahr dealership in Victoria, TX.

cannot help you as i know nothing about them. alot of aamish around here use older ones. probably due to the bishops rules on using tractors of a certain age and they probably go cheap which the dutchies tend to lean towards with vehicles anyway (around here at least).

but, Deutz is a german company (you can take german company to be a good thing and a bad thing) that has been around a LONG time so they should be decent tractors. you do see some around with blown engines but i would suspect due to lack of maintenance like keeping the cooling fins and fan clean like any air cooled engine. alot of guys back home in Delaware used duetz power units on irrigation pumps. i presume either due to the price (lower) and/or being air cooled is one less thing to worry about on an unattended engine loosing coolant. give it oil fan fuel and let it run

I have had a d4006 for about 20 years. I
use it to cut hay using a drum mower.
It's a pretty heavy mower and have had no
issues with the hydraulics lifting it.
The only issue I've ever had was with the
pto. Had to split it and replace a
splined coupling that ran the pto. I do
remember it was an expensive part for what
it was. Got the part from walt's
tractors. That was 10 years ago or so. I
can't remember what state walts was in but
they were a duetz dealer from way back.
It has been a tough little tractor for me
that uses little fuel.

I have a fleet of 5 Deutz tractors. An mfwd 130 06, an mfwd 100 06, a 2wd 68 06, a 2wd Deutz-Allis 7110, and an mfwd Deutz-Allis 6260. We got our first Deutz in the 70s and I just added the 68 06 to the farm this spring.

What I will say the 06 series Deutz tractors are some of the most reliable and solid tractors made. I especially like the larger (80, 100, 130) ones with their fully synchronized transmissions. But I will say I have never spent any time on a 40 06.

Will the 40 06 work out for you? It depends. It is a 40-50 year old tractor. Depends a lot on how it was treated and maintained. I find most people never gave Deutz tractors the same "love" that Deere or IH's got. Also, is it a earlier "gray belly" model (gray engine/transmission/rear end) or a later model with a black underneath? There were some nice improvements made to the series throughout its long run but actually not sure if many changes were made to the little ones.

No one will ever claim Deutz hydraulics to be fast. But strong they are. 3pt lifting capacity ranks among best in their size. Most common problem with Deutz hydraulics on an old 06 is the pump is wore out. There are some aftermarket pumps available at somewhat reasonable prices, and they are easy to change out. You can get the OEM Bosch/Rexroth pump from a Deutz-Fahr dealer, but that is more $$.

In general the 06 tractors are simple and easy to work on. That is one of the main reasons my dad bought his first one. If you are the least bit mechanically inclined you can figure out how to work on them without a manual.

For starting in cold, it depends. I believe a 40 06 would have an inline fuel pump (our 100 06 has rotary) so that is a good thing. Our Deutz tractor with inline pumps will start down to 0 to 10 degrees F without any starting aids. The 6260 will start at -20 degrees F without cycling glow plugs or anything, if the battery has enough juice to crank it fast enough. For the 100 06 with the rotary pump, about 35 degrees F is about all it will start at unaided. But cold starting varies with condition of the engine and fuel system significantly. Some engines just start better than others...even if all are the same model.

For Parts, I have a source up here in Wisconsin for parts and Deutz knowledge that is 2nd to none: Landwehr Repair. I have no concerns about getting parts for any of my Deutz tractors. They have been a Deutz tractor dealer since the early 70s and continue to sell new ones. They have a salvage yard for used parts, but also an impressive inventory of new parts. For an item such as a hydraulic pump, they would have the factory Bosch/Rexroth pump and an aftermarket in stock for you to chose from depending on how much you want to spend. And you can call them up for any repair or maintenance questions. That is free of charge. New parts are on the expensive side to put it lightly, but I am always happy to be able to get parts. Parts are still usual cheap considering the price of new tractors nowadays. Filters you can get from NAPA.

Relatively quick USA Deutz tractor history: KHD was parent company of Deutz engines/tractors. They started selling Deutz/Deutz-Fahr tractors in the USA in late 1960s. Fahr was another German tractor/machinery dealer KHD bought in the 60s. They developed a pretty good following on there own in the USA, but in 1985 KHD bought Allis-Chalmers to form Deutz-Allis. In my opinion a bad move for both KHD and Allis. KHD quit Allis tractor production and marketed their Deutz-Allis tractors through Allis dealers. Although good tractors, Deutz-Fahr tractors were not made for how many American farmers use there tractors KHD refused to change the tractors. It did not go over so well. KHD sold off Deutz-Allis to AGCO on Dec 31, 1989 and AGCO stopped importing Deutz-Fahr tractors in about 1992, though KHD was still making Deutz-Fahr tractors for other countries. KHD was struggling financially for multiple reasons in the middle 1990s and ended up selling Deutz-Fahr to SAME (From Italy). Don't get an air cooled SAME tractor mixed up with a Deutz air cooled tractor. Different machines with different engines. Anyway in the 2000s SAME tried to get Deutz-Fahr tractors back in the USA through different distributors. Currently PFGAmerica is the distributor for them and from what I understand has high ambitions for them. Lets hope it works out, if for nothing else to supply parts for the old ones. AGCO does have parts for some Deutz tractors, but I am sure they are not restocking their inventory at this point and what they have is what you get.

Sorry for the long post. Trying to be helpful. Please ask any further questions.
Dan

What should I offer for a 10006 with good rears (short bar, long bar Goodyears), hasn't been run since 2012 & engine is stuck?

2wd or 4wd??

If they are taken care of like they should be, they will outlast almost any tractor. I know of the 100 Series around So Wis that have over
25,000 hours on them, bottom of engine still original. One very successful tractor puller uses the 100 series and tells me the drivetrain
will stand up to 700 hp. Will use a lot less fuel than others. I had a DX130 that would burn 3.5 gallons per hr pulling 5/18s. You could
run it all day, shut it down and run your fingers over the dipstick.

2 wd.

It depends. On condition, if it is earlier or later model, tire condition and size, cab?, fenders?, roof?, steering arm or full hydraulic steering, etc. We know engine is stuck so that is a big factor.

What I can say is on the 68 06 I bought this spring I traded in a 2wd 100 06, an earlier black belly still with steering arm, with a 2 post ROPS and roof. Brakes we not working (leaking internally). Fuel pump was leaking fuel, but it ran good. I picked it up in 2014 and never got around to fixing it and in my current situation the 68 06 fits my needs better. Landwehr Repair gave me $3500 for it. He said the ROPS/roof got me an extra $1000 alone.

Without knowing much more about the one you are looking at, I would start in the $1000 to $1500 range. But don't want to insult the owner. A running tractor is key. Getting the engine running is one thing, then not sure what is needed beyond that. I would really have to see it. Maybe not even that much. I actually have been at an auction where there was a non-running, stuck 2wd early grey belly 80 06 that brought $2300. That was in about 2013. Surprised the heck out of me! I was hoping to get it for <$500 for parts.

I can get it for $1000.00. It will be a good project for this winter.

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2wd

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dan can u. Plug up a 4006 or did deutz offer that I have had some experience with Bosch pumps i have a couple allis Chalmers they were in cahoots with deutz at 1 time i think it a grey belly not sure aint looked at it yet but will soon anything I need to watch out for? It should work fine it will be handling small rolls of hay splitting wood if it has remotes and Bush hogging about 10 acres amd some fence repair I expect it should do anything a d17 allis or a mf135 would handle

That's not bad.

(quoted from post at 15:20:42 09/30/20) It depends. On condition, if it is earlier or later model, tire condition and size, cab?, fenders?, roof?, steering arm or full hydraulic steering, etc. We know engine is stuck so that is a big factor.

What I can say is on the 68 06 I bought this spring I traded in a 2wd 100 06, an earlier black belly still with steering arm, with a 2 post ROPS and roof. Brakes we not working (leaking internally). Fuel pump was leaking fuel, but it ran good. I picked it up in 2014 and never got around to fixing it and in my current situation the 68 06 fits my needs better. Landwehr Repair gave me $3500 for it. He said the ROPS/roof got me an extra $1000 alone.

Without knowing much more about the one you are looking at, I would start in the $1000 to $1500 range. But don't want to insult the owner. A running tractor is key. Getting the engine running is one thing, then not sure what is needed beyond that. I would really have to see it. Maybe not even that much. I actually have been at an auction where there was a non-running, stuck 2wd early grey belly 80 06 that brought $2300. That was in about 2013. Surprised the heck out of me! I was hoping to get it for &lt;$500 for parts.

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no engine is not stuck maybe you read post wrong