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Sorry if this is a little long,but I am fed up with people who don't know how to sell stuff,for instance,last couple months I have been looking for an older service truck,and I was looking at 3 trucks,1 of which I drove 5 hours round trip,the guy told me the next time I see him,he will be driving the truck to my house,and now it's been 2 weeks,he won't answer calls/text.the other two told me that the truck was mine,then when I went to pickup it up,both guys sold them out from under me.so I went a different route and quit looking...then, I have started looking for a diesel front mount mower,so I contacted 4 different guys,1 of which never responded at all,1 i had an appointment to check it out today,the guy never sent me his address like he said,and another 1 i tried getting in touch with like 3 times throughout the week,since the add was still up,so i asked for like the 3rd time if still available,the guy said "NAHHH FAM",of course I have no idea what that means,so i simply said what?then no answer,so i said," yes or no"?he said "no"(my sister later informed me,that nahhh fam is a youngster's way of saying no.really stupid but I won't get into that..anyhow the 4th machine I ended up buying today,so all's well that ends well,it just really annoyes me that people want to sell something,but can never be honest or give a yes or no answer.that's all I want,is a simple yes or no.I know you folks must go through the same thing,but why is everyone so careless,I am just so sick of waiting for people to do what they say.Am I wrong in holding people to their word?

Rock
 

People are generally useless now anyways, won't commit, don't keep their word. Those people always existed, but now the internet means you are more likely to drive further to look at something for sale. Old days you would only look at local people in the newspaper for sale ads. You knew the local deadbeats so you knew who you were dealing with the minute you called the ad in the number :)

Other thing to consider...is if they have 30 people answer an ad, you say you can come tomorrow, then someone says they can come RIGHT NOW, the right now guy gets it.

Try selling if you really want some fun.
 
Selling and you control the conversation.

Buying is where the real dishonest people come out.

If you are selling you get a lot of scams and a lot of tire kickers, but that -is- the way selling stuff goes.

I’m so sick of the deadbeat sellers I don’t really look very much any more. Anyone selling stuff will sell their mothers soul to screw a buyer over any more. And it’s their
game, they are in charge.

I’m as disgusted at the original poster on the crap sellers do to buyers.

Paul
 
I have the same problem. With people asking for help. Or trying to sell generators.They don't know what they have. They want way more than it is worth. But they cuss me out or hang up on me. Because I didn't tell them what they wanted to hear.
 
It's funny that you say that,because I recently sold a nice wheel horse tractor,and I got a lot of people
who would contact me,but never follow through,then a fellow called me up,lowballing,then wanting to trade
for a bunch of bargain bin tools,but he was a really good guy,and eventually we had a deal for $600 and a
bucket full of tools and I had to drive halfway,but since no one else got in touch with me,and it had to
go to make room,i agreed .the next day a guy called me up said he really wants it,and will give me $100
more than asking price,so $850 and he would pick it up.Before I said yes I called the first guy,and told
him that I would be stupid to turn it down,and he understood perfectly,he was great about it.the funny
thing is,about a week later the guy i sold it to called me and said he would sell it back to me for $600
with delivery because it wasn't big enough.I said no,I have no use for it anymore.so I gave him the first
guy's number,and as far as I know it went to auction.

Rock
 
I've been selling a bunch of smalls this summer thru FB Market place. Have learned about half of the people who say they are coming......don't. To somewhat protect myself, I ask that arrangements be made over the phone rather than the FB Marketplace messengers, as they can be deleted or just avoided. Phone calls are a little tougher to avoid. I also let the person know that if they don't arrive within an hour of the scheduled time, the item will go back for sale, or I'll contact the second in line interested party.

Yup.....folks can easily hide behind their phones/computers these days.
 
When I sell something, the first person who shows up with the right amount of cash gets it - period. Stories, promises, threats and excuses from the other lookers don't matter.

I've found that, in general, if I want a real bargain, I have to work on the seller's terms. If I want a smooth transaction, I have to pay retail price. If I'm the tenth guy in line, the seller wants to sell to his buddy, or the seller does not want to work with me, I can't force the sale.
 
You cannot expect a seller to take your word on something over the phone. If you want an item held you need to send a deposit, or, if you are not sure you want the item until you see it be prepared to have it gone when you arrive.

This is not new - it has always been so. A seller that holds an item based on the word of a stranger on the phone is a dope, pure and simple. As to sending a deposit you can do that via PayPal immediately.
 
I know what you mean,but I do expect a seller to keep their word,that simple.I don't see anything wrong with
that.but,No I don't expect the seller to take my word over the phone,but in person yes,and I take their
word,but regardless the seller should stick to what they say,because their decisions effect the potential
buyer,call me old fashioned but I know that's how I would want to be treated,and therefore the reason I have
always done business that way.

Rock
 
god is great, beer is good people are nuts! i keep my word on what i say. and when i tell a seller something i expect the same thing. i have been through the B.S. also. i had 2 versatile 400 swathers . day before yesterday i advertised one. yesterday morning a calls said i want to look at your swather. i gave him directions and he came with a swather mover. had 1" of rain during the night. he comes and looks and says it be nice to see it run i said it has not run for two years. but i can get it going. got a battery and some gas and soon it was running . moved it on the yard and and said it is what it is and what do you think? he said you drive her on the mover. he said ya i looked at a few and they are junk with a big price this one looks good. then he says are you a mechanic by trade and i said yes. he says thought so. i could have spent all the time to get it running before advertizing but i thoght just see who is interested. kinda surprised me it sold to the first guy that called.
 

No matter how irritating all that was, to me it still sounds better than walking in to a car dealership.
 
I will hold an item for someone if they tell me when they will be here. If they don't come then it's sold to someone else. Some of my buyers have to travel 100 miles or so and so do I when buying things. I normally tell a local person cash talks and BS walks first one with the money gets it.
 
I buy and sell a LOT using both marketplace and CL. My buying and selling experiaces are at least 95% positive. Not making excuses for bad behavior but as one other poster said a person better have cash in hand and truck running when a bargain appears. When an item is listed at a very good price the seller is often inundated with responces. I removed a steel vent/cupola from one of my barns that had a weather vane attached. I was going to scrap it and wife says somebody might buy it so I put out ads for $100 and had like 25 imediate responses. First guy offered me $50 and I told him Id think about it. 5 min later another person says they will take it for $100 and be here in 20 minutes so I sold it. First guy cusses me when he calls back. Told him I coukd have sold it 30 tines for full price why would I play money games with him??? Lesson for him is BUY don't kick tires when the price is all ready good. I have yet to run into a seller that would not hold an item while I was travelling to buy it and I do sane for buyers. I did however purchase a dump truck at about 50% of its value and while I was counting out the cash another person appeared and after the deal was done the seller said the guy had driven 3 hours,,, isn't right to treat people that way.
 
My motto is, "The time to buy is when it's in front of you." I either strike a deal on the spot and pay up, or I don't. If I am looking at something that I am serious about, I have made arrangements to drive or haul it away when I pay.

When I'm selling, first person there with cash, and I tell prospects that up front. I don't dicker much on price on the phone, if someone tries to talk me down on the phone, likely they don't have the money and will be a no show.
 
I know what you are dealing with as I have had a similar dealing with a guy on a FREE item. This is what I posted on craigslist:
I have a LARGE BOULDER in my back yard that is part of my landscaping. HOWEVER due to other plans I need it to be removed. I was told by a Crane Company that I had move it a few feet a few years ago it weighs over 6800 pounds. It measures about Six feet wide and Five feet deep. See the attached pictures! You will need a large loader or crane to lift and load it on a flatbed trailer or truck to move it.
Come and get it FOR FREE!! YOU supply the means to lift and load and haul it.
I got a reply within a few days that he wanted it and has equipment to do the job. BUT has done nothing but make excuses why he can not get it. Keeps saying he will come soon, but nothing happens. Why not just say he is not going to get it and say so? I know I am not out anything but my time to keep replying to him. But really, Does not a PERSON'S WORD mean anything anymore? John in AZ
 
Reading between the lines, he may be waiting for someone to buy the rock from him before he invests any effort in moving the rock.
 

Farmer Rock I agree. I've made several purchases that required a good bit of travel time, I agree to be there by a certain time, they agree to hold it till that time, I've always showed up or called if there was a traffic delay and expected the item to be there when I arrived, there's only been one time that the item was sold before I got there and they had sold it the night before, one hour after our agreement was made for me to drive 3 hours to his place the next day after he got off work.
Normally if someone tells me first there with cash I think them for their time and offer my number should it not sell.
Only twice have I made the trip only to turn the item down, both times the item wasn't even close to be in the condition they said it was, one trip was 500 miles and a overnight stay, wasn't to happy about that one.

To me a person is only as good as their word, if we agree on a deal and time to be there and they then take first cash that shows up, their not much of a person in my book. If I'm selling a item and we agree on time and date for you to be there, it'll be there when you show up. Now if your going to be late you had better call.
 
Frustrating. Yes. I hate it when they say, "It's the new normal." But I'm afraid this type of disrespectful, narcissistic behavior IS the new normal. Sad times we live in.
 
You can read between the lines all you want. But this guy from the outset said he wanted the rock for himself as he is building a new home and wants it for his yard. But, he has made nothing but excuses for not getting it as he said he would, so I don't even believe if he is building a house or not. Again as stated before, in my day,(I'm 75 years old) your word was a bond. Sure don't count on it any more in this day and age. Rant over, John in AZ
 
I quit taking deposits, pay for it and take it with you. I don't run a lay away or storage program. If you commit to buy and we agree on a price I will hold it a day or two, i will not accept a deposit or partial payment. Bring me the money as we arranged, don't call me with an excuse. I have had people pay for stuff and then not move, stuff I wanted gone. I was cleaning my yard to have a graduation party for my daughter and sold a parts tractor cheap just to get it gone the guy left the tractor for three years with no contact. He didn't answer my calls and when I had another guy haul it away he had a fit. I have dealt with great people who made the deal and came the next day with cash. One was concerned that I wouldn't take a down payment. You can usually tell decent people.
 
One tip I have for selling is NEVER EVER respond "Is it still available" as a buyer, and NEVER EVER respond to anyone asking "Is it still available" as a seller.

Don't say you won't respond to "Is it still available" in the ad either, just don't. If you can't ask an intelligent question about the item in the ad, then you don't know what it is, don't want it, and I don't have time for your shenanigans.

I have wasted a LOT less time chasing down leads by using this simple filtering technique.
 
me too! I had a pretty nice 2 bottom drag plow that I sold and got paid from a guy that lived 2 states away. After several years of excuses I td him he had 30 days to get it or I would sell it again, never heard from him again. Sold it the second time and got paid and same deal, sat here for ever ended up at the scrap yard and sold it for good that time!
 
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