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(quoted from post at 18:18:00 06/15/20) So which tractors are the rarest and most desirable?
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So That1Guy:

(sorry if I didn't get your handle exactly right)

What brings you here? On lockdown from the recent events, someone said, "Hey there's a bunch of crazy tractor nuts on this site. Go check them out!"

Or are you really into tractors? Quite ok if you aren't--I don't judge. Room for everyone in this great big world.

But if you ARE into them, what is it you like?

Old ones that use rubber tires?
Even older ones that roll around on steel wheels?
Steam engines?
Green tractors? Orange ones? Blue? Custom colors? Just plain rusty ones with no paint at all?
Ones that don't even run, but MIGHT run?

Ones that don't have wheels, but roll around on tracks? Like dozers?

What's the last tractor you personally saw that you liked?

Oh, and what part of the world are you in? Don't worry, we don't need a street address.

Anyway, just being nosy. It's what I do. Welcome to the forum.

Gerrit in Maryland
 
Oh yea. I was so intent to not call out a SHTA, that I failed to include the TA in the Diesel High Crop.

I am interested in what the poster is interested in. he can ask stirring questions, but we all can do that. Ie: is a Mac tool a better price point than Snap-On? Stc. Jim
 
UDLX is valuable and desirable, but not overly rare. I have owned a couple models that less than 50 were built, but not particularly valuable.
 
Sorry about that NEW GUY, It seems you caught the guys ,at the wrong time of the month!, They sure are contencious, right now! They are usually friendly, and helpful!
 
In this area, trying to find a Ford 961, or 861, or JD 620, 720 that still have any sheet metal left on them or that every part on it hasn't been abused beyond salvage AND priced about 4 to 5 times over what its really worth. None really rare, just hard to find in usable condition.
 
Traditional that would be a wonderful addition to my collection. Very Rare indeed. I have a 35 Deluxe, fairly scarce, a 570 Diesel and a 30. We really enjoy our Cockshutts.
 
I could NEVER, and still can't understand somebody taking TWO Farmall tractors and making ONE out of them. A stage 2 Super H is a great little tractor. A 300 or 350 Farmall are even better, have more options, like TA, live pto, Fast Hitch, factory power steering, and additional HP.
I guess if you had a Super H with catastrophic transmission/rearend problems, and an early 300 Farmall with engine damage making ONE tractor from the best parts of both makes sense. But most are made to sell at exorbitant profit.
 
You answered your own question if the two tractors combined will sell for 2x what both will bring together just a smart financial thing to do,ain't like those old Farmalls are rare or something.
 
I've read a fair amount of Cockshutt history, never heard of the model 20 Little Chief ..... I wonder if it is just a different decal on maybe later models or there was something about it that was unique?
 
Hi David .... was that the one with 750 horsepower that blew apart? Maybe I'm confusing you and your tractor with somebody else.
 
It's an entertaining discussion but I think the OP has moved on by now. Possibly found a site devoted to aficionados of pogo sticks or collectors of antique bee-keeping equipment.

Maybe posed a question casually, like walking through a park:
"What kind of flower is that?"
"A dandelion."
"Oh."

Anyway, faced with about 30 YT emails and no coffee yet, I'd bet the natural impulse would be:

Delete
Delete
Delete.....

Sadly, tractors aren't for everyone. Terrible world we live in.

Gerrit
 
Did some surfing, found a picture of a model 20 Little Chief (see the link below). Looks like a decal for sure, maybe some other differences but I don't suspect a whole lot of them.
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THAT'S THE THING! In some if not most cases the Super H-TA sells for about what the 300/350 would. Plus you have all the work of merging the two. The SH-TA used to sell for a premium, but the price has steadily dropped in the last 3-5 years as has the price of most tractors. Seen some sellers even create paperwork claiming the tractor is a true IH prototype when Guy Fay wrote an article in Red Power magazine years ago that the prototypes were H's built in 1951 and had nothing in common with the TA that finally made it into production in '54.
FARMALL was building enough various different models, they didn't have the time to build 2-3 prototype SH-TA's. If something like that went down the assembly line there would be records on it at the Wisconsin Historical Society building.
Lots of those type oddball tractors were built at the other tractor plants, like the Chicago Teactor Works, or the Melrose Park engine & crawler plant that also built Super WD-9's. One I actually had a hand in was a Hydro 186 Hi-Clear All Wheel Drive. I sent 10 bolt 1586 mounted duals to Elwood Mfg where it was assembled. Hinsdale supplied the tractor and Elwood the axle.
 
One of my Fords has to be rare with all the mods it has.
4000 AP chassis, serial # says it's a gasser but it's not, 4400 front axle but steered like a 3500 with a 4610 integral power steering box and a hard nose from a 545 on it.
I call it a 4550.
 
(quoted from post at 21:53:47 06/15/20) a Deere 330 all fuel would be the rarest. Don't believe they made such a thing.
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Some of the Dubuques also had high altitude gasoline and high altitude allfuel compression choices .
 
(quoted from post at 02:18:00 06/16/20) So which tractors are the rarest and most desirable?
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That one at the auction that two guys have bid way higher than what it should sell for.
 
Very different from the regular 20's,its a one row off set tractor built to cultivate one row not 2 like the regular 20.Mine has the cultivators, clutch pedal in a different place,pt arms different.Mine still has the original Indian head decal,supposedly only shipped to FCX coop in NC mine was sold at the Raleigh NC store and I bought it from the original owner back about 1997.
 
(quoted from post at 11:26:48 06/16/20) Why would you say all that about the original poster? Might be some young fellow looking to learn about tractors.
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Very true, the OP could have a genuine interest in tractors. I'd meant it to be humorous but my cynicism bled through.

So...That1Guy, if you're out there---
 
That's a broad subject. Most desirable because it's rare or has most features ? And what time period ? I like to assign each decade --30's-40"s-50"-etc. and consider new features like live pto
or good durable brakes or power shift . For desirability consider the number sold. Production figures are interesting to compare ,but not readly available especially for more recent years when foreign numbers dominate. And for most,what was in the family is important. For me : Fordson ,Farmall F-20 ,mostly replaced the work horses, 37 JD B, 47 MM U , Oliver 88 , 53 Ford Jubilee, AC WD-45 ,JD 4020, 79 Cat 65 , 96 FordNH 8670 which we,re still using with over 11000 hours. It's fun to find production numbers for Ford 8-N's over 200,000, AC and Massey in SE WI over 50,000,but well under IH and JD and then check todays numbers of a few thousand for the $200k models. And Mahindra is over 200,000,like Ford in the 40"s.
 
I am missing the general aim at "rare" I guess. Hart-Parr/Oliver doesn't seem to matter. I think they were first with two cylinders, or "Styling" or independent PTO, electro-hydraulic controls........wouldn't some of these "firsts" qualify as rare and collectable? IaLeo
 
To me it would be finding a Deere 8010 or 8020 in the back of a shed covered with dust, pigeon crap and original paint.

Not sure how many of these tractors are unaccounted for, but there must be a few.

Grouse
 
(quoted from post at 22:12:07 06/16/20) To me it would be finding a Deere 8010 or 8020 in the back of a shed covered with dust, pigeon crap and original paint.

Not sure how many of these tractors are unaccounted for, but there must be a few.

Grouse
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iirc 83 or 87 of the 8010/8020 tractors are known and accounted for . One 8010 missed the upgrade .
 
Add to first post : AC WD came with 3 bottom plow ,digger, and corn cultivator , AC D-17 ,IH 706 later repowered with Olds 455 V-8 ,last gas tractor , IH 806 ,Ford 3000 selectospeed heavily used on 12' haybine and 4 row planter, Ford 4000,5000, two 9600, Last had a cab , Ford TW-35, IH 1086 ,Two IH 5088 ,Steiger Puma with steerable front ,Leyland 384 and 272, Oliver 770 LP used mixing feed for 30 years , . and Massey Fergoson 4840 with the 903 V-8
 
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