When I was a kid, we had a manual overhead garage door- No electric opener, just pull up on the handle and it had a spring assist to make it easy to pull it up overhead into the garage. I'm putting 2 auto doors in my new shop, and would like to use that type as it is easier to seal against the weather. Anybody have a clue as to where I might get the hardware? Google is not my friend in this case, because all I can find is modern type stuff- I guess the manual kind is just too '50's.
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Crazy Horse
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So you are talking about a single slab door right? And the springs and hardware are on the two sides and the springs are the expansion type springs? As opposed to modern doors with several panels and the springs are wound up under tension and are mounted above the door.
Dopp Creek
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If you use that style with the long assist springs, be sure to run a piece of 1/8" cable through the length of the spring and secure the cable with clamps at each end. If those springs break under tension, they can whip around and inflict serious damage to man and machine.
Yep, single slab door, hardware and springs on the side. Not quite sure of how the springs worked, but I'm thinking they were under tension when the door was closed, and so they could assist with pulling it up. But I don't know how long a spring would last, being under tension all the time.
Crazy Horse
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Yes, those are the old style for sure, I remember them when I was a kid. Actually, the newer above door types that are wound up tight (when the door is closed shut) are under tension in the newer type of sectional doors. When you open the door using the remote or wall control, the springs release their tension and help lift the door. A garage door guy that changed my springs years ago told me that the motor does very little work in lifting, it just overcomes the tipping point for the door to open. Most of the work is done by the springs apparently.
I do know guys that have found a spring works outfit to make the older kind of spring, finding the other hardware might be tough obviously.
What size are your doors? Buy & Sell type publications like Craigs List often have good used sectional doors of the newer type for sale, my son found some years back and is still using them and they were very reasonable. Good luck with your project.
I do know guys that have found a spring works outfit to make the older kind of spring, finding the other hardware might be tough obviously.
What size are your doors? Buy & Sell type publications like Craigs List often have good used sectional doors of the newer type for sale, my son found some years back and is still using them and they were very reasonable. Good luck with your project.
I didn't want to use the sectional doors because there is no way to seal out the weather. This shop will be home to a valuable old car, and will be heated through the winter to keep moisture out. Maybe I'll just do swinging doors instead, if I can't find the hardware for what I want.
Smalltowner
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Mine is a 4 slab spring door, 35 years no problem.
Bob N.Y.
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- Norway, N.Y.
What size is the door? I would think the springs should be matched to the door. I replaced a 7' x 16' wooden 5 panel door a few months ago that had the long tension springs. The door I put in is aluminum skin and foam core with the springs wound around the shaft.
By the thicker insulated overhead doors. I have Wayne Dalton doors on my heated building and no issues with water leak and it holds the heat good. Make sure the door opening is the correct size and then they put a rubber strip all around the opening to seal the small crack.
Steve@Advance
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I had a shop with those type door.
No clue where the hardware came from, they were older than me!
I'm not sure anyone still offers them, haven't seen one in a long time. But they were far from being energy efficient, did not seal well.
Have you looked into the insulated sectional doors? They are flat on the outside and seal with weather stripping. Work well if properly installed ans sealed.
No clue where the hardware came from, they were older than me!
I'm not sure anyone still offers them, haven't seen one in a long time. But they were far from being energy efficient, did not seal well.
Have you looked into the insulated sectional doors? They are flat on the outside and seal with weather stripping. Work well if properly installed ans sealed.
Kansas4010
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My neighbor had a door like that on his garage. He really liked it until a spring broke. He tried everywhere to get a replacement. He finally had to settle for an undersized spring. It wasn't remotely heavy enough and that door would not work. It was downright dangerous because it'd drop the door back down right on top of you. He finally replaced the entire door.
DoubleO7
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- Location
- Crystal River, FL
Didn't the single slab door lower half swing out as the upper half swung in?
If so, how does that door seal weather tight?
The modern multi panel doors have improved to seal and insulate really well.
DoubleO7
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- Location
- Crystal River, FL
I would look at the Thermocore door by Overhead Door Company.
Up to R17 rating.
Up to R17 rating.
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