can a water logged engine be saved?

Farmallb · Mar 31, 2020

Can a tractor engine, 1951, be saved if I poured 6 gal of water out out of the oil pan drain. The tractor sat for 10+yrs, and the muffler pipe just sat on top of the manifold letting rain water get around it. What do you think it would cost in labor and parts if it could be made to run?

danofarming · Mar 31, 2020

Janicholson · Mar 31, 2020

Anything is possible with enough money and time thrown at it. But--- the engine is not going to make it as is, so: is it a real interesting and rare tractor like a Waterloo Boy, or IH 8-16, or Mogul?
If not and it is something like a Case DC, Allis WC, JD A, or Farmall F20. Probably not worth repairing, unless there are cheap repairable donor tractors around. If it has great tires, perfect metal, good drive train, and special historic/family value, sure. It will not make money ever. So we need to know what it is in detail to be kinda useful to you. Jim

Janicholson · Mar 31, 2020

If it is a Farmall B, NO is the right answer. There is no Hydraulic system, a Wide wheel stance, no live PTO, and if stuck scrap value at today's scrap prices, minus the effort it would take to get it there. If it was grandpas, it sure can be made to operate. Just read my earlier post. Jim

old · Mar 31, 2020

Hard to say with out a lot more info. If say it is a Farmall A or B yes it can be saved by replacing the sleeves and pistons and having the crank ground

David G · Mar 31, 2020

I never argue with Jim

rustred · Mar 31, 2020

well if its a gas start diesel like the wd9 or wd6 engine then you could spend 10k. on it. hardly worth it. unless you want the matching #'s for a rare tractor. anything is possible with a big chequebook. you would be starting from a bare block on that rebuild , in fact if the block is even good. with that much water at 2 cyl's have had to have water in them and be split open busting the block. I have seen this a few times.

NY 986 · Mar 31, 2020

If you do not already own it then I would pass it up. Like others said if you want to spend enough money and time but chances are things like the engine block are permanently ruined. I would only attempt any repair if it had sentimental value.

C.Amick · Mar 31, 2020

If you live in a climate with freezing weather, the block could be cracked internally and not usable. Is the tractor free?

centash · Mar 31, 2020

Pull the head....if you can. That will give you an idea. Worst case, the head is pitted, cylinders and pistons are pitted and the block is cracked. You will be into four figures several times over very easily.

Ben

buickanddeere · Mar 31, 2020

(quoted from post at 16:37:26 03/31/20) Can a tractor engine, 1951, be saved if I poured 6 gal of water out out of the oil pan drain. The tractor sat for 10+yrs, and the muffler pipe just sat on top of the manifold letting rain water get around it. What do you think it would cost in labor and parts if it could be made to run?

Engine will have to be 100% disassembled , each component clean and inspected .
Find a running 620 instead .

Billy Shafer · Mar 31, 2020

I have saved many marine units. That went under. But I was able to get to them. In less than two months.Longer than that and I did a total over haul.

Al Baker(pumpman) · Apr 1, 2020

I saved a 4020 that had sat in a field without a rain cap for over 10 years. Wasn't much usable but the block and head casting, but she does live again. Its all on how much time and money you want to spend. Al

Rodney51Cub · Apr 1, 2020

(quoted from post at 10:04:09 04/01/20) Its all on how much time and money you want to spend. Al

I spent 7 1/2 years off and on rebuilding this 1950 JD A. It had not run in almost 30 years when I bought it. Had sat out in a field for 15 years uncovered and then under a tarp for the rest of its time before I bought it. Block was good but head was cracked. Several other parts were replaced but it runs and I do it because I enjoy it.
Good points on both sides of buying it or not, it is up to you and what you are going to do with it.

ss55 · Apr 1, 2020

What model tractor are you looking at? Find out what the tractor will be worth in both field ready condition and restored condition before investing any money in it. Unless you really want a big project or the tractor has extremely high value, you may find you can buy a similar tractor in better condition for less time and money than it will cost you to fix this one. It could cost several thousand dollars and hundreds of hours of your time to fix the engine in this one, and the transmission could be in similar condition as the engine.

stevieb49829 · Apr 1, 2020

Also, if any of the rain could have gotten into the tranny or differential, through rotted boots or bad gaskets the engine will not be your only worry. My engine was well protected for the 8 years it sat out, and luckily (very luckily) the 5-6 gallons of water that made it into the tranny/diff. did nothing to cut through the oily sludge that coated all the gears and bearings. The tranny was literally frozen (a block of ice) when I skidded it home in December from the neighbors, but no cracked cases anywhere. After a warm night in the shop, it rolled across the floor.

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