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The existing tire is no good. If I were to pour some automatic transmission fluid around the rim, would that help get it unstuck? If I take a reciprocating saw and cut off most of the old tire off, is that going to help my situation?
 
Yes and yes, You can pour the oil around the bead and take the spoon and work around with a sledge hammer, or cut the bead with a sawzall and then knock the bead off. I believe the sawzall way will be quicker and alot easier. I beat on an old rusted on tire for a long time and ended up cutting it off anyway. gobble
 
On a tire one does not want to us an oil product since it make rubber soft and sticky. Use dish soap and lot of it and water.

So that said fill in the blanks so maybe we can help you more. Size of tire can make a difference as to how to attack the problem
 
Cut it off the bead and use a carbide grit blade to cut through the bead wires, they are alloy and will dull most blades. Careful not to nick the rim. Do not heat it. Jim
 
BTDT many times both as a farmer and as a tire repair person. Soap and water and time to let it soak in good is the best trick short of just flat out cutting it off but you have to be careful not to cut into the rim
 
Another tool is a dam big slide hammer. Rubber rebounds so it just doesn't work like any other material. Rust makes anything hard to get loose. A tire shop has the correct toolthat will break it loose in like thirty seconds. Might be worth it for you to have a service truck come out and then the next time YOU will know how to do it yourself. Watch the video and here is the tool. Cheep enough.
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Bead braker
 
That big just cut it off and be done with it. Just be careful you do not cut into the rim or you maybe replace both tire and rim. Now if you had the tool I have you could probably get it off but I have an air powered bead breaker tool that works well on old tires
 
Just think of tool that is air powered that does the same thing. That is what I have and i found it in a junk pile and pulled it out cleaned it up and use it when I need to break down tires
 
I'd take it over to my tire guy he'd have it off in 10 minutes on his machine no matter how stuck it is,no beating the rim up no struggling half a day etc etc.Go by the Dayton Farmers Market and visit a couple Mennonite friends while I was in the area too.Need to pick up my Sorghum Syrup too.Dang think I'll try to find a flat tomorrow(LOL)
 
Bought the same breaker from Gemplers a couple years ago. Cost $135 from them though. Use a hand ratchet to operate but works good. Changed 4 18.4 x 34 tires this past year with it. Tire dealer charges $400 a trip for mileage and labor so I did save a bunch of money.
 
Most every tractor tire I tackle is rusted to the rim . I use a front end loader -- if you have a clean front edge to the bucket without teeth. With the bottom of the bucket vertical be very careful to push down right up against the rim edge . This can be difficult if you dont have some body to be down there to watch . I use a long rod hoked to the hydraulic lever (open station with the control on the fender) this way I can see what is happening and control the downward pressure. You can easily catch the rim edge and bend it . If it is really rusty I often find that there are rust holes in the rim edge when you knock out chunks of rust . In this case when you are using the tire spoons you will likely bend the edge or it will just collapse from being rusted so thin. If you cut off the old tire you can avoid bending the rim BUT you have to install the new tire with out destroying the rim edge. Good luck!
 
If on tractor I use a loader and push in at an angle. From the inside I have used a hydrolic jack and a blocks of wood. Sometimes even a jack all
 
The tire he showed in the video did not appear to be stuck or rusted to the rim. Does the tool work on a tire tat has been on the rim for 10 years or more and is really rusted bad?
I have been looking for some thing but am skeptical about something that works that easy
thanks
Dale
 

It is so easy that it isn't worth the effort to load it onto your truck. You cut it off with a recip saw, then cut the bead with a cold chisel. Just beware as you cut the bead that it is under a lot of pressure due to the rust expanding it and it can whip off.
 
Times I have wrecked a tire out in the field I slow down and drive back to the yard, beads unseat themselves by the time I get to the shop.

Soft dirt does not hurt the rim, actually cleans it up a bit for you.

Call it a redneck hack method if you want, but it does work.
 
A bottle of Coca Cola was the material of choice at truck stops.
Pour it on the bead near rim, as far around as it will go.
 
I lay the wheel on the ground, have a tractor stand with its front end above it, and put a bottle jack between the front axle and the tire. If it is a big enough tractor the jack will press the tire down rather than lift the tractor.
 
Broke the beads on a tire from a 1930 C Case that had sat in a salvage yard from 1958 to 2018. Got the first bead off and inside one broke. Then got it over the edge of the rim and cut the cords with a cut-off wheel on my grinder. Works good but the instructions say not to use a impact wrench. I use a 18" ratchet to have more leverage.
 
Like Old said you don't want to use the oil if you are going to reuse the tire. Take some Murphy's oil soap An 8 pound pail will cost about 10-15 dollars mix some with water and let set to soak then knock it down. The same soap will help wit mounting the next tire or the same tire.
Dish soap tend to be a bit corrosive to steel over time I have found so don't use it on tires.
 
Just go on Utube and watch some other videos. There are a couple of versions and even a guy showing you how to make your own. Remember not to use an impact gun. They break stuff. Pretty nifty tool. Have seen other times where a simple tool works just fine as where the big price tool is just more bells and whistles. If a tire is just a little stuck and where it is REALLY stuck are at opposite ends of the scale. Hey $65.oo sounds good to me. Cheaper than a. Service call and you keep the tool.
 
When my tire guy takes a 15.5 X 38 off the rim,cleans up the rim,paints the rim,remounts the tire with a new tube and charges me $93 total I'm not going to spend time and effort
beating and cutting an old tire for a little more than a new tube will cost me retail.
 

C Amick, it is apparent that most of the responders missed that the tire is junk. Cutting the tire off the bead with the recip saw and then cutting the beads with either cold chisel or cut-off wheel is so quick and easy that it makes no sense to put the time and effort into taking them off in one piece or loading them on the truck in one piece
 

I know what he is up against. The rubber is rotted away on the bead of the tire, and the steel cords of the tire are what is rusted to the rim. There is NO tire tool that will get ahold of that rusted mess. The ONLY answer is to cut it off with a die grinder, and even then you might need to finish the job with an angle grinder.
 
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I know what he is up against. The rubber is rotted away on the bead of the tire, and the steel cords of the tire are what is rusted to the rim. There is NO tire tool that will get ahold of that rusted mess. The ONLY answer is to cut it off with a die grinder, and even then you might need to finish the job with an angle grinder.
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Rusty, when I was told to use a cold chisel It was surprising how well it worked.
 
Wow, that is what I call full service. I always have to clean and paint the wheels or rims myself. In fact, I just told my wife that I want an pneumatic needle scaler for my birthday.
 
(quoted from post at 17:22:00 11/29/19) Wow, that is what I call full service. I always have to clean and paint the wheels or rims myself. In fact, I just told my wife that I want an pneumatic needle scaler for my birthday.
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Those needle scalers are fantastic. Should be in everybodys toolbox.
 
Any time I've ever had to deal with a tire that's been cut off, it's been nigh on impossible. Without the sidewall and tread, there's nothing to pry against and the bead won't move. The sidewall and tread give you leverage.

Cold chisel just bounces off. Sharp enough to shave with. Bounces off.

Never had a tractor rear that would not come with a HiLift jack and a strategically placed chain.
 
(quoted from post at 09:00:34 11/30/19) Any time I've ever had to deal with a tire that's been cut off, it's been nigh on impossible. Without the sidewall and tread, there's nothing to pry against and the bead won't move. The sidewall and tread give you leverage.

Cold chisel just bounces off. Sharp enough to shave with. Bounces off.

Never had a tractor rear that would not come with a HiLift jack and a strategically placed chain.
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Barnyard next time try a hard steel chisel. Those rubber ones are hard to cut with.
 
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