AR Serial

No, not an automatic rifle. I'm talking about the John Deere AR tractor I'd posted about earlier. Curious if anybody can tell what year it is by this serial number plate. 282262

Late 1952

you mean semi-auto LOL

Yes that and not an assault rifle either

Do you know what they thought they were going to gain by trading the M for the AR? Was the M shot?

(quoted from post at 12:51:01 11/05/19) Do you know what they thought they were going to gain by trading the M for the AR? Was the M shot?

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I don't know for sure but the AR was likely a newer tractor than the M. Also my uncle did not care for the narrow front on the M. It was subject to plugging up with mud when the roads were bad and hard to control. He also tipped it over on an incline once. But right now a narrow front M is a much rarer tractor here than an AR. Plus, it might take up less room in my shed than the AR :roll:

I had the same thoughts when I saw Rusty's post.

I would much rather run an M than the AR, but I can understand after the roll over- I don't think you could roll that AR if you tried!

(quoted from post at 17:16:16 11/05/19) I would much rather run an M than the AR, but I can understand after the roll over- I don't think you could roll that AR if you tried!

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Yes, the AR is a real low rider. Pretty stable I think. I have this ad for a 1951 AR where they rate it as a 3 plow tractor.

I thought it was pretty obvious. The M is a row crop tractor. The AR is a wheatland more suited to Rustys farm. We have both tractors. The M was bought new by grandpa in 1950. The AR we added to the collection this year is also a 1950. The M was our hay and loader tractor something the AR would not be very good at. The AR would be the better wheaty tractor. If you want to get in a real debate, my great grandpa traded in his IH 600 for a JD 830.

1952, and right at the end of the run....'53 models started with s.n.282350. Thanks for
posting

(quoted from post at 07:22:46 11/06/19) 1952, and right at the end of the run....'53 models started with s.n.282350. Thanks for
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Thanks for identifying the year. It is the same year as my Merc and probably a few more things around here.

Yes a 3 plow tractor. We pulled a 3-12" Massey Harris No. 28 plow with ours. Ours was a 1950 model, first year for gas engine and styling We had the A row crop as well and pulled a 3-12" John Deere No. 55H plow with it. Funny thing the A was rated at 38 PTO HP and the AR was tated at 39 PTO HP. Must have been a bit of difference in gearing to do that. The AR was a very hard steering tractor and front wheels would shimmy so bad you could not drive at fill speed on road. After the steering gear box broke we had it converted to hydrostatic steering using the parts from a blue Ford combine and then the shimmy stoped and you could steer it with one finger. I never liked it that well as I found the seating very uncomfortable compairing it to the other JD row crop tractors we had. Late wife never drove it untill the hydrostatic steering and she liked it then. All we had were 12" plows as did not like a 14" or even gasp a 16" plow. So we pulled 2-12" withe the 38 unstyled JD A, 41 Farmal H at 27 PTO HP, The 46 JD B, the 49 JD B with 28 PTO HP, The 44 2N Ford that when new they brough out a 2-14" plow with it and after 2 or 3 rounds they took back the 14' one and brought out a 2-12", still have tractor and plow. Pulled 2-12" with both the Ford NAA and Ferguson TO-30. Pulled same model plow with the 38 A, the 41 H, the 46 B, 49 B, the TO-30 as well as the International 10-20 tractor. Had the AR on baler a few times and was so had handling the baler I said the heck with that and put the 49 B on and it handled the baler a lot easier than The AR. The AR was good for tillage if you did not mind that offset seat as long as you had the duals on as on first time over plowed ground thoes 12x26" rear tires were just too rough riding. Drawbar sat lower on the AR so even with a wheel disk had to readjust the drawbar for it to run level. If they could have keept the seat from the unstyled AR that precided the styled model it would have been a more comfortable riding tractor but with the styled AR they put the hydrolic controls that the unstyled did not have under the seat and only way to do that was move seat to right.

Rusty, the M being rare in your area is interesting. M's are a dime a doz. in my area and
you very seldom see a AR. I actually can't remember the last one I saw....local collector
does have a BR.

(quoted from post at 10:15:54 11/06/19) Rusty, the M being rare in your area is interesting. M's are a dime a doz. in my area and
you very seldom see a AR. I actually can't remember the last one I saw....local collector
does have a BR.

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I know of one guy who has a narrow front M locally. I think they, and other narrow fronts, showed up here post WWII when new tractors were in high demand and low supply. They did not normally have narrow front or row crop tractors here but in that time, anything with an engine and rubber tires would sell. Prior to the M my uncle had a narrow front DC Case that he eventually converted to a wide front. My dad was on a list waiting for a tractor and he was lucky enough to get a new DC4. He found it a bit light and traded up to a used John Deere D that he ran for at least ten years.
Seen here in a photo from about 1950. My other uncle who owned the Cockshutt 30 on the left farmed with my dad for a while.

Thanks for posting this picture......

The JD "D" appears to have a Splitdorf Mag.....

Here in North Western Alberta.....the Splitdorf MAG is not common...

Bob...

(quoted from post at 11:19:42 11/06/19) Thanks for posting this picture......

The JD "D" appears to have a Splitdorf Mag.....

Here in North Western Alberta.....the Splitdorf MAG is not common...

Bob...

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I dont know much about the D magneto but here is a closer view of the tractor about 1952.

An older photo of the AR taken in the spring of 2003. It has a very low seating position on it.

https://eauclaire.craigslist.org/grd/d/chippewa-falls-john-deere-tractor/7014905116.html

Saw this after I read your post. I've never seen an AR for sale although I guess I was never looking either.
DWF

I see a couple for sale here in Sask. just like mine. $2000-2500.
AR in Sask

Here in North Western Alberta.....the Splitdorf MAG is not common...


My 37 unstyled D has the Edison-Splitdorf mag. It came to Alberta via Elkford, BC. Don't know where it was before, but I suspect it was a southern Alberta tractor.
Just to stay on topic, I have a late 49 styled AR in the garage. 272xxx serial number, no water pump. My now-gone neighbour had a styled AR that I always admired, so I finally got one of my own! unc

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Just to stay on topic, I have a late 49 styled AR in the garage. 272xxx serial number, no water pump. My now-gone neighbour had a styled AR that I always admired, so I finally got one of my own!

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Unc, your AR looks just like mine although I see you have an auxialiary hydraulic valve and an updated seat from a car?

Yes, the seat is a disaster. It's welded up out of bed rails and water pipe. The add-on hydraulics were for some sort of blade attached to the front. In spite of a number of issues, it's a nice straight and original tractor, and most of the major parts are original and correct. Now I just need to find time and tires to set it together. My little farm is going to need some mowing and brush hogging next spring. unc