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Stay bars will this work

grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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I'm pulling a single axle hayride trailer tomorrow for a get together. Get a bunch of kids on the back and the 3 point hitch will go all the way up and "dump". So I made these. Will they be ok? Thanks. Ford 640 tractor.....
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I would wire/secure the lever for the three point lift. If someone accidentally moves it to the up position, somethings going to get wrecked. Ron
 
I can't really see what they're hooked to, or how.
Why not just use a standard drawbar instead of the 3 pt?
A 640 has all the mounting holes for it from the factory.
 
It looks to me the lift arms are on the wrong sides. right on the left and left on the right. It just could be me.

Jim
 
If you're using a 2 wheel trailer and you intend to hook it to the rear most ball on your hitch......and......a "bunch of kids" congregate on the front of the trailer, I think your tractor could get a little light in the front.
JMHO
 
Gp
I don't know why it won't work.

If I make something like that to pull kids in a trailer some would be on me like a diaper accusing me of child endangerment.
George
 
Think I'd just go down to Tractor Supply and get a set of stablizer bars good thing is they are adjustable,and yes you need something to hold the arms in place. Tying the lift
lever down won't do it as the 3pt arms can still come up.Get on a hill with the weight on the back of the trailer and the tongue of the trailer can come up and bring the lift arms with it.
 

Lift arms balls go down and in...

Never hook to the top hole of the top rocker it could damage the draft plunger...

Check chains have 7 links they are hard to duplicate yours look wrong...

https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1326943&highlight=chains

https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=746133&highlight=chains

I have NEVER been able to clobber up a set of check chains that work,,, its sum'n you better off buy'n... If the lift arm does not hit the tire then they probably are OK,,, that would depend on tire size and spacing tho... a good test is with no implement raise the lift,,, if the arms do not hit the tire,,, the arm does not flex when the lift is at the top of the lift and then no slack in the chains you are good...


I have also seen where the chains were to long the lower lift arm would hit a tire the tire would raise the lift arm up once the lift arm cleared the tire the lift arm will drop and break a top lift arm from the lift cover... I may see yours wrong they may be correct its something that needs to be dead nutz no close...
 
Not saying that your setup will not work Grandpa, but my experiences as a youth on and around 8Ns on hilly ground makes me say that a drawbar would be safer and eliminate guessing. Kids are precious cargo. Test your system by putting some weight like haybales on the back of your trailer.
 
I would not touch that setup you have for anything, You need with using the 3 point hitch to tow both the sway bars to control side movement and the stay straps to control vertical movement with a drawbar lock to keeo the 11 hole drawbar from turning.. Plus locking down the lever to keep from bending the stay straps. What you have there is a death trap. Had a 2N, 9N, NAA, TO30 2 4000 and a 5000 and would never consider something like you have. All except the 9N and 2N had factory drawbars that were belly mount for pulling something like that. And for the other 2 tractors Dad had a custom made belly mount drawbar made for the 2N back in 55 and when I bought the 9N I found a factory made by John Deere for that tractor made by them for use as a manure spreader hitch. Get rid of everything you have on that tractor for a hitch if you want to keep your fence-deck building bussiness as you are libale to loose everything if you insist on trying to use that piece of junk.
 
(quoted from post at 09:58:04 11/02/19) I would not touch that setup you have for anything, You need with using the 3 point hitch to tow both the sway bars to control side movement and the stay straps to control vertical movement with a drawbar lock to keeo the 11 hole drawbar from turning.. Plus locking down the lever to keep from bending the stay straps. What you have there is a death trap. Had a 2N, 9N, NAA, TO30 2 4000 and a 5000 and would never consider something like you have. All except the 9N and 2N had factory drawbars that were belly mount for pulling something like that. And for the other 2 tractors Dad had a custom made belly mount drawbar made for the 2N back in 55 and when I bought the 9N I found a factory made by John Deere for that tractor made by them for use as a manure spreader hitch. Get rid of everything you have on that tractor for a hitch if you want to keep your fence-deck building bussiness as you are libale to loose everything if you insist on trying to use that piece of junk.
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el, well, well! Gp love did bring the rock throwers out! Even some that know not of which they speak.
 
It gets worse...... I also use the same hitch minus the stay bars, to move round bales! Then it has a terrible pointy thing on it to stab bales!!!# oh no!!
 

If anything lifts on the hitch with those stay bars in the top rocker holes the draft control will kick in an try the raise the lift, once that happens the stay bars will bind forcing the 3 point into a uncontrollable lift.

You need to lower the top link and stay bars down to the lower hole in the rocker to make the draft control less sensitive to any pressure put against the rocker and spring.

As others have said you need to swap sides with the lift arms
 
Well, if anything ugly happens (and I hope it doesn't), just refer your lawyer to this YT thread and blame what happened on the ones who said things would be fine. Just making the original post leaves me with the notion that you are more than unsure as to how safe it might be.
 
Make sure your farm insurance agent knows about the hay ride. He and the insurance co may have some objections.
My farm insurance policy specifically excludes hay rides.
 
Traditional Farmer ,
If you look at pic, the 2 black bars act as sway bars. I sometimes tighten up the chains by a link on each side to minimize laterial movement.
There is no down force on 3 pt arms. Only down force is gravity. I think grandpa is trying to keep the trailer from raising the 3 pt.
geo
 
Just run a short chain through the end of your rocker arm and around the rear axle! that will prevent the arms from coming up with an uplift on the drawbar!
 
That's why I didn't say sway but but said stablizer bars which are what the things he made are a poor substitute for.Real stablizer bars are adjustable and as other posters
pointed out need to be in the lower top link hole not the top one.
 
Hmm I do the same thing and never had a problem just another reason to not own a dorf 5000 🙃
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This load weighs 21420 pulled by a 3020 John Deere ran down the road in 8th gear
 
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