UPDATE STEERING WENT OUT

tonyof757 · Oct 22, 2019

Ok so I had someone come out and look at my tractor. 2 things first.....We ruled everything out and narrowed it down to the cylinder that controls the steering (PICTURED BELOW) Does anyone know where i can find a universal cylinder kit for this unique cylinder ? Hence Theres alot of shady people around here and I don't trust anyone around here to do a good job or do it in a timely fashion so I may try it myself ......Second I broke the canister the the transmission oil and filter goes in .I turned it too tight. Does anyone know where I can get a new one ? We temporaraly bypassed it for now. If I cant find the one for it on line what are your thoughts about a universal one with 3/4 fittings ( picture below)

Jim.ME · Oct 22, 2019

You could try talking with your AGCO dealer about a cylinder kit and filter housing. To get a "universal" kit you need to know what parts are in the cylinder and the sizes of those parts. That means tear it apart and either take them to a hydraulic shop and have them match them up, or determine styles, materials, and sizes of the parts yourself and try to find them some place on line. The filter housing might be found at a salvage yard.

It will help people, help you, if you include the info (make, model, etc.) about your tractor in your posts, every time your start one. I happened to remember you posting about a week ago and went back to see what you have. It appears you got responses pointing to a Massey Ferguson 303 Workbull. You also might get some more help if you post on the Massey Ferguson & Massey Harris Forum.

tonyof757 · Oct 22, 2019

i appreciate it jim but i still dont know what i have here. just those pictures with those numbers thanks

tonyof757 · Oct 22, 2019

jim i think this dudes got what i got , check it out

http://www.tractorhd.mobi/massey-ferguson-work-bull-303-industrial-tractor.html

Jim.ME · Oct 23, 2019

I know it was thought to be a MF Work Bull 303 by the guys that responded to your earlier posts, I posted the 303 brochure for you. The numbers in your photo are casting numbers, pretty much useless. They are not model or serial numbers to ID your machine. They are sometimes used to ID castings when production changes were made, seldom are they even part numbers for the castings. The tractor ID numbers would have been stamped into a metal tag, usually about 2" x 4". On some of the MF tractors the tag would be somewhere on the console, visible when setting in the seat, or around on the right side of the console, near the battery or air cleaner. Missing sheet metal in those areas can mean missing ID tags. Some loaders and backhoes also had ID tags on them to ID the loader or hoe only.

You are likely stuck with the "tear it apart and match pieces" option unless you can find the tractor tag and actually ID it.

showcrop · Oct 23, 2019

Tony, it should be no problem to get a generic cylinder for it. You need to measure the diameter of the rod, and the outer diam of the cylinder, in order for the power and speed to come out close to the same, and the length extended and retracted to get the same degree of turn. The attachment need to be similar of course but you should be able to do some adapting. Your pics are of no help because the cylinder is obscured in all of them.

Jim.ME · Oct 23, 2019

His cylinder is visible. It is the rear section of the draglink. The front section of the draglink screws into it and that is where the length adjustment is. My thought is; while not impossible, it would be a challenge to retrofit another cylinder in its place.

tonyof757 · Oct 23, 2019

(quoted from post at 05:13:13 10/23/19)

His cylinder is visible. It is the rear section of the draglink. The front section of the draglink screws into it and that is where the length adjustment is. My thought is; while not impossible, it would be a challenge to retrofit another cylinder in its place.

thanks fellas , Jim I believe you got me going down the right road , and to the other fella sorry for the pics I will upload a closer shot for you . Jim where did you get that picture ?

showcrop · Oct 23, 2019

Jim, from your diagram I can see what was not visible in the pics. I agree that finding a generic cylinder to sub in would be a challenge, but I be that for some $$$ a machine shop could put the correct thread on the end of the rod on the right new cylinder.

Jim.ME · Oct 23, 2019

"Jim where did you get that picture ?"

The picture is a cut from one of the parts pages for the power steering in the 303 Industrial Tractor parts book.

Tony, As I posted for you, a couple weeks ago:

"You can access the online parts books for them at: https://apb.agcocorp.com/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica. At the bottom where it says Guest user click on view books. On the next page enter 303 (for the tractor) or 500 (for the loader), Check the box for Massey Ferguson and you will get a list of models that have 303 in their title somewhere, scroll down to chose the right one for yours. Click on it and you will get the parts book.

Also in the box where you clicked View Books is a link to the AGCO technical publications where you can search and find the Operator's and Service manuals (and Parts Manuals if you want) to purchase as hard copies or different electronic options for your machine."

You need to decide if the parts are right for yours, I can't beyond saying they appear similar.

Also one of your earlier photos showed part of an ID tag, looked like maybe it is on the engine. What does the whole tag look like/ have for info on it? You are looking for a tag similar to that one to ID the tractor.

tonyof757 · Oct 23, 2019

(quoted from post at 06:16:20 10/23/19) "Jim where did you get that picture ?"

The picture is a cut from one of the parts pages for the power steering in the 303 Industrial Tractor parts book.

Tony, As I posted for you, a couple weeks ago:

"You can access the online parts books for them at: https://apb.agcocorp.com/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica. At the bottom where it says Guest user click on view books. On the next page enter 303 (for the tractor) or 500 (for the loader), Check the box for Massey Ferguson and you will get a list of models that have 303 in their title somewhere, scroll down to chose the right one for yours. Click on it and you will get the parts book.

Also in the box where you clicked View Books is a link to the AGCO technical publications where you can search and find the Operator's and Service manuals (and Parts Manuals if you want) to purchase as hard copies or different electronic options for your machine."

You need to decide if the parts are right for yours, I can't beyond saying they appear similar.

Also one of your earlier photos showed part of an ID tag, looked like maybe it is on the engine. What does the whole tag look like/ have for info on it? You are looking for a tag similar to that one to ID the tractor.
thanks all that tag talks about is transmission , says sparkomatic or hydrostatic or something like that and tells me what type of trasmission fluid to add. i thought it was the model plate too , also since i cant find the exact model number i do have to go off pictures but i found a book where everything in it seems to be like mine https://www.ebay.com/itm/Massey-Ferguson-MF303-MF-303-work-bull-tractor-shovel-parts-book-catalog-manual/233191042965?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D60709%26meid%3Dc8ad98a6b81d48789fc180edacbac0ae%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D392420498966%26itm%3D233191042965%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Jim.ME · Oct 23, 2019

The book is likely fine, I use the on line books. You may want to compare a hard copy book like that, with the on line parts book. Books were printed at a given time and might not have a change if there was one after the book was printed. Yours might be a later machine than the book and need a different part number. Just saying it is something to watch for.

I don't remember you telling us what that tag was before, I apologize if I missed that.

If you have the book you should get part numbers to talk with a dealer about. Baum Hydraulics does have some kits they cross to manufacturer's numbers so you might try them with the cylinder kit number from the book. On line searches using the part numbers may find you a cylinder kit or the filter housing.

tonyof757 · Oct 23, 2019

thanks I think you sent information previously for where i can get parts online for this thing . do you know where i can purchase parts. specifically parts for my cylinder so i can rebuild it myself. or try anyway.

Jim.ME · Oct 23, 2019

I have given you a couple already. Not knowing where you are located makes it hard to give you anything other than general suggestions. No sense to give you names of any I might know around here, if you're half a continent away.

Check with your Massey Ferguson/AGCO dealer. If you don't know who it is use the locator to find the closest dealer. http://www.masseyferguson.us/find-a-dealer.html

Baum Hydraulics http://www.baumhydraulics.com/

A hydraulic shop local to you. You will likely need to tear it apart and either take the pieces to be matched up or measure each one and determine the proper name, style, material, and dimensions for them to pick the parts by. You may be better off just having a hydraulic shop rebuild it.

tonyof757 · Oct 23, 2019

(quoted from post at 08:24:27 10/23/19)
I have given you a couple already. Not knowing where you are located makes it hard to give you anything other than general suggestions. No sense to give you names of any I might know around here, if you're half a continent away.

Check with your Massey Ferguson/AGCO dealer. If you don't know who it is use the locator to find the closest dealer. http://www.masseyferguson.us/find-a-dealer.html

Baum Hydraulics http://www.baumhydraulics.com/

A hydraulic shop local to you. You will likely need to tear it apart and either take the pieces to be matched up or measure each one and determine the proper name, style, material, and dimensions for them to pick the parts by. You may be better off just having a hydraulic shop rebuild it.

hamlet nc 28345 i found someone who was recommended from agco then recommended from them to another guy about an hour from here so i think i will try them and see . your info was very good i appreciate it , helped alot thanks

Ken Macfarlane · Oct 23, 2019

Just take the cylinder to a cylinder shop. Our local shop is great. Build a new rod or barrel and chrome it if needed, has every seal imaginable available. Its not free but their work is
good and cheaper than anything new.

shaun wallace · Oct 23, 2019

With that trunnion on cylinder is the control valve that makes it steer left or right. In Agco site there is a breakdown of cyl.

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