ahhh ok thanks JD(quoted from post at 21:41:56 10/12/19) Tony the pump your looking at is the hydraulic pump for the loader. It has nothing to do with the steering. The steering is a completely different circuit/system. Like I posted Look on the MOTOR not in front of the radiator. Look at the pictures I posted and see how the Power steering pump is driven by a gear off the cam. Nothing to do with the hydraulic lift pump in the front.
i posted some more pics you you guys could help me better understand what I have and why I don't have and power steering. some of the things I took pictures of i do not understand what theres things are to put oil in them . all i know is where the gas goes and where the oil goes besides where to put the hydralic oil for the arms and bucket . main thing i'm trying to trouble shoot is how to get my power steering back thanks(quoted from post at 02:24:00 10/13/19)ahhh ok thanks JD(quoted from post at 21:41:56 10/12/19) Tony the pump your looking at is the hydraulic pump for the loader. It has nothing to do with the steering. The steering is a completely different circuit/system. Like I posted Look on the MOTOR not in front of the radiator. Look at the pictures I posted and see how the Power steering pump is driven by a gear off the cam. Nothing to do with the hydraulic lift pump in the front.
(quoted from post at 17:54:02 10/13/19)
Tony that looks to be the power steering pump there just forward of the distributor.
That pipe nipple with pipe cap is probably where you check and fill the oil.
If you take that cap off clean that area up pretty good so you don't get any grit inside of the pump/system.
Also in that one picture I saw the aluminum plate that has the serial number, and surely the model number on it.
(quoted from post at 14:54:02 10/13/19)
Tony that looks to be the power steering pump there just forward of the distributor.
That pipe nipple with pipe cap is probably where you check and fill the oil.
If you take that cap off clean that area up pretty good so you don't get any grit inside of the pump/system.
Also in that one picture I saw the aluminum plate that has the serial number, and surely the model number on it.
(quoted from post at 20:33:56 10/13/19)
I ment to say red arrow or white arrow sorry
the line going to that pump comes straight from the hydraulic tank above the engine .(quoted from post at 03:29:45 10/14/19) Given the location of that pump it would be gear driven off the gears on the front of the engine. Dumping oil in through that cap you point at would only put it into the engine oil, I don't see it being a reservoir for hydraulic oil.
If you don't have a belt driven steering pump there may be a flow divider further down the output line from the gear driven pump that sends oil to the steering.
(quoted from post at 17:02:35 10/12/19) Some of the older Massey Ferguson tractors had a separate power steering pump that had the reservoir tank right on the pump. They did not hold much oil, maybe a quart or two. Look on the on the sides of the motor towards the front. They are driven by the cam gears and can be on the right or left side depending on the engine model. My steering pump seems to be the part with the arrow pointing to it. This canister seems to be the last step before hydralic oil gets to the hydraulic pump . Hence the bucket and arms work off the same pump in some way. My question is how do you open this part and clean it if it is the filter ? I thought I could screw it off like a car oil filter but I don't know .
Earlier MF 135 style, usually on the left side.
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A little later style. Common on the MF 180 tractors. These are on the right side.
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Then another style that is on the right side of the MF 40 tractors.
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All of these do have a filter inside the reservoir can. You take the bolt out of the end of the reservoir and the can slides off the pump. You can then see the filter.
i will thanks. i did go out and poke around today . i pulled off some hoses . hydralic fluid poured from every hose i took off to and from the power steering pump. i also checked for pinched hoses. and looked in the weird yellow hydraulic filter container. everything looked good. fluid a little milky also i dipped a stick into the hydralic pump it was dry. i was thinking maybe it need prime i don't know . but i will post more pics tommorrow.(quoted from post at 16:56:29 10/15/19) How about posting some photos looking at the front of the engine on the right side,in around and behind the alternator.
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