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New Holland S69 hay Baker won't tie bales

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Lamar 42

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Hello, I recently purchased a new Holland S69 square baler. Everything works good other than it won't tie bales. I sharpened the knives and also replaced the needles. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Are the needles rubbing the knotter frame
when they go through to deliver the twine
properly. What's the knot look like after
a tie cycle. Operator manual shows pics
of failed knots and causes. Just need
more info.
 
As Craig says, tell us more. They don't charge by the word here. Needles adjusted properly? Tucker fingers working along with the twine discs, billhooks and the rollers on the knife arms? We need to know all of this. Then we can help you help yourself to fix the problem.
 
Did it work before you changed the needles, why did you change them did they get busted off?

Do you have a manual, they have troubleshooting in it?

Paul
 
(reply to post at 21:33

:05 09/08/19)
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the needles go up and down like there suppose to they allow twine to go on bailes but no tie far as replace needle I bought the bailer from a John Deere place they said everything work great so me being me I took them as there word I didn't realize it was broke till I got ready to baile when I was greeseing everything so I lost hay so I order a new one took a week to get install it and busted a old Bale I had to make sure it was working I got real tight. Bales there straight as can be when it came out of shoot it has two strings but nother are tied everything working good on bailer just want tie
 

Lamar, that is nice that "all you want is for it to tie", but tying is about 90% of what they do. if you want help YOU NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!! all of them. Why did you replace the needles? Are they rubbing the frame as they need to? Are the tucker fingers cycling properly. Your brief description of your problem points to improperly installed needles.
 
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The needle was broke when I bought it I don't know how it broke I just replace it I adjusted it according to the book
 
Run it through a tying cycle by turning the flywheel slowly by hand. See that the bill hooks catch the twine. The needles are adjusted by the two bolts where they attach to the frame. Loosen one a bit, tighten the other a bit. The needle just touches the frame as it goes by. The knife arm should just touch the bill hook as it goes by. Those old balers sometimes won't make a tight bale without the knot coming loose. Might be an issue with the twine holder disc in that case. Like the others said, a manual is worth it's salt as without tying, all you have is a press. Might be an idea to replace the drive chain driving the knotter. A stretched chain will throw the timing off enough to break a needle. Make sure the plunger stop is free and doing it's job too. I learned a lot years ago by having the local dealer send down a guy that knew knotters. Cost a few bucks but saved more in the long run. Maybe you have someone in the neighbourhood like that too.

Good luck
 
You have to have the manual and go step by
step and adjust everything perfect.
Sometimes you might have to replace parts.
The stripper arms can sometimes be put in a
vice and bent.
 
If I got it from a dealer and it was not working as they said it did I would be having them fix it. They told you it worked and so it should work or they should be the ones fixing it
 
(quoted from post at 10:01:34 09/09/19) If I got it from a dealer and it was not working as they said it did I would be having them fix it. They told you it worked and so it should work or they should be the ones fixing it
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Old, he bought it with a broken needle. That is a pretty strong indication that he bought it as -is.
 
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