What should I be looking for first

tractorkrum · Aug 21, 2019

Have a JD 1010. Had started right up after sitting all winter. Ran great for our plow day this spring. Was going to move it a few weeks ago and battery was dead. Put charger on it and it started right up. Used the tractor and everything was good. Parked the tractor for a couple of weeks and battery was totally dead again. Put charger on it and it will pop, but not start. Cleaned carb. Again only will pop. Tractor engine spins a few time and the battery goes dead real fast. Battery is not quite three years old. Do I change battery first or do I have a multiple problem going on here? What would you look for first?

showcrop · Aug 21, 2019

A battery problem, among others, is a good possibility. I would take it to my auto parts store and get it tested. A battery cable connection is another. Many tractors fail to crank due to terminals that the owner insists are clean but turn out to be coated. Once you can crank it you can go on to other troubleshooting.

Charlie M · Aug 21, 2019

I'd take the battery to an auto parts place and have them check it out. They can tell you if it has a bad cell.

Janicholson · Aug 21, 2019

Charge the battery with it disconnected. The engine will not run because there is not enough voltage to operate the ignition and crank it at the same time.
It could be a bad battery, but more likely an electrical drain. To find the drain, put a test light between the non grounded battery cable and the battery post. If there is a solid drain, the light will light. I would start by disconnecting the Alternator big wire. If no change (light still lit) put it back. Find fuses and circuits to relays and devices disconnecting/removing and replacing.
If the test light never came on, even a glimmer, check the charging system and do a battery load test.
It will probably start with a charged battery. Jim

Geo-TH,In · Aug 21, 2019

The age of a battery has nothing to do with the condition of the battery.
Simply try a different battery. Wimpy battery = wimpy spark = no start.

2510Paul · Aug 21, 2019

I agree. Start with the battery, regardless of age. Paul

Leroy · Aug 21, 2019

You say disconectiong the alternator. That tractor came with a generator not an alternator so would wires be same if he did a alternator conversion? And I don't see where he says he has an alternator on it. But I go with bad battery

BarnyardEngineering · Aug 21, 2019

Discharging batteries to flat dead hurts them. Anything under 10V with nothing connected is really bad. They can only do that a couple of times before they lose most of their capacity.

So your 3 year old battery is probably ruined.

You've got two choices: Disconnect the battery every time you get off for the day, OR, use the suggestions below to find the source of the parasitic draw.

Since it is a Deere 1010, it is unlikely that you will have any fuses or relays, and it may still have the original generator on it. These tractors were very simple.

Janicholson · Aug 21, 2019

I don't know when JD changed over to alternators. so in the case of a generator, pulling the Bat terminal off of the regulator would be an equivalent. Jim

DiffLock · Aug 21, 2019

(reply to post at 23:43:08 08/21/19)
I don't know when JD changed over to alternators.

I don't know either, but my 1020 still has the generator as well. Not sure which year mine was built though.

Fred.

Bob N.Y. · Aug 21, 2019

Charge the battery up and leave it overnight with the ground cable disconnected. If the battery is dead or weak the next morning, it is bad. If it doesn't lose its charge while disconnected, the problem is somewhere else in the tractor, possibly the cutout relay in the voltage regulator

ditchwitch · Aug 21, 2019

Got a question GEO. The other day i had to jump my 135 Massey off. Generally cranks right up. I put the charger on the battery about all day by mistake and when i finally got back around to it the battery was HOTT ,I thought holly crap it might blow. Next Morning dead as a doornail. Did i ruin the battery. Which it is 4 or 5 years old

showcrop · Aug 21, 2019

(quoted from post at 15:25:14 08/21/19) Got a question GEO. The other day i had to jump my 135 Massey off. Generally cranks right up. I put the charger on the battery about all day by mistake and when i finally got back around to it the battery was HOTT ,I thought holly crap it might blow. Next Morning dead as a doornail. Did i ruin the battery. Which it is 4 or 5 years old

Ditchwitch, you must have reversed the polarity. The battery is most likely ruined. Take it to your local auto parts store and get it load tested.

Leroy · Aug 22, 2019

I don't know about if it is a diesel. But if a gas it uses same engine as the 40 combine with a 115 CU IN deck plate. That same block was used in the 45 combine thry at least 65 with a 145 or a 165 CU IN deck plate and in the 2010 tractor and that engine in a 65 combine had a generator. Don't remember if thr 69 45 combinr with the 180 CU IN enjinre had generator or alternator but think was generator. Easy enough to find out by just going to Deeres parts lookup site. But think it probably was in 70's when change was made.

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