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grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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I don't think so! What year did the I beam steering arms change? I ain't selling or buying this one.....lol.
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It looks 8N-ish to me. The tractor is 70 years old. Maybe the orig steering arms are long gone. So, I do think so, but notwithstanding the steering arms, I am not in the market.
 
BTW, I just noticed that at least in the ad as shared, he/she doesn't actually identify it as an "8N". But presuming that, I'm still ok with the ad as written.
 
Rear wheels are either 9 or 2N with 47 being the newest it could be and with those rear wheels it should be a 3 speed and not the 4 speed of an 8N.
 
Part way through the 1944 production run the front axle radius rods were changed from the I beam design to the oval design. 1944 production serial numbers started with #9N126575 and ended with 9N170017. "Hat in the Ring Squadron" rear wheels identify it as a 9N or 2N. There is a wealth of info on internet on these tractors. Of course, almost any part of any of these tractors (9Ns/2ns) could be swapped out. and there's been plenty of time to do that.
 
Once more with vigor. The ad does NOT identify the tractor as an "8N". He apparently missed the year by one or two. GMAFB, it's an old Ford tractor. Buy it, or don't.
 
I see a starter switch in front of the shift lever.
I believe the 8N starter switch was incorporated into the shift lever.
When I was a kid I worked for two different local farmers, one with a 2N and one with an 8N.......as I recall the 2N had a separate starter switch and the 8N had an "S" cast into the tranny top for the start position.
 
(quoted from post at 10:27:59 07/02/19) I see a starter switch in front of the shift lever.
I believe the 8N starter switch was incorporated into the shift lever.
When I was a kid I worked for two different local farmers, one with a 2N and one with an 8N.......as I recall the 2N had a separate starter switch and the 8N had an "S" cast into the tranny top for the start position.
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eutral safety start switch was incorporated during 9N production, very early.
 
with I beam radius rods, this is a 9 n , no smooth axle centers so it isnt a 39, im guessing 4o to 42 or so i believe when the 2 n came out in 42, they went to the more familiar rounded radius rods, i might be off a year or two on the radius rod style change . 8ns were built from 48 to 52
 
Several things are "for sure". It's not a '48 or a '49. '48s through 52's were 8Ns. Many things distinguish an 8N from the earlier 9ns and 2Ns the most obvious the rear wheel design. The radius rods changed on the 1944 model which would identify this as a 1944 or earlier, so technically it could be a 2N or a 9N.

The best place to look up info on this is the "Ford Fordson Collector's Assn" website where John Smith has thoroughly covered all of the differences year by year and change by change. John Smith is not only an expert on Ford tractors but an Authority.

I'm older than most on this site and remember these tractors when they first came out. I thought they were neat. My Dad thought them to be under powered and dangerous. For what we did, my dad, as usual, was right.
 
OK Doc, nothing to get upset about, you made your point I think. GMAFB ..... give us a __________ break I say !!!
 
Sounds like he got his tiny, little thong all tied in a knot over what someone said. Cranky people should find some other website. (;>))
 
Brian, The tractor with the shift lever start was not a Ford. Ferguson had the starter in the shift pattern. They were sometimes referred to as Ford-Fergusons.
 
(quoted from post at 15:34:23 07/02/19)

I don't recall a "neutral safety starter switch"

What I recall, was a shift pattern:

S 1 2
3 4 R

Not sure of the exact configuration.

The shifter was pushed into the S slot to start the tractor.

Maybe I'm wrong.......that was a long, long time ago! LOL
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(quoted from post at 10:31:05 07/02/19) OK Doc, nothing to get upset about, you made your point I think. GMAFB ..... give us a __________ break I say !!!
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Okay, so I'll show my ignorance here. What does GMAFB mean? I have an idea, but mine does not have an "a" in it.
 
Ferguson TO20 and TO30 shift pattern is:

1 3 S
2 4 R

S=Start. You don't want to accidentally go there when its running.
 
I looked up starter switch for Ford 8N and I see it has a rod on the end which goes into the transmission and is apparently activated by the slider that moves the gears.

So.......I'm about half right.......the 8N did have an extra "S" slot for the shifter but........it provided a "safety neutral start" only as was eluded to by jmor.
The starter button in front of the shifter was still there.

I believe this feature was introduced on the 8N and later tractors and was not available on either the 9N or 2N.

That'll learn me to start talkin' about Fords like I knew something about them. LOL
 
Rich ..... translates into Give Me A _______ Break. Rather crude comment for a discussion forum with a bunch of old guys ....
ha!
 
(quoted from post at 15:16:14 07/02/19) Rich ..... translates into Give Me A _______ Break. Rather crude comment for a discussion forum with a bunch of old guys ....
ha!
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OK, got it. That makes sense now.
I was trying to get Go MYOB out of it. Thanks for clarifying.
 
Just for the record, the 8N shift pattern is:

R 4 1
2 3

The starter is NOT actuated by the shifter, but the transmission has to be in neutral to push the starter button down.
 
(quoted from post at 18:29:32 07/02/19) Just for the record, the 8N shift pattern is:

R 4 1
2 3

The starter is NOT actuated by the shifter, but the transmission has to be in neutral to push the starter button down.
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Actually, 2nd is directly below 4th, and 3rd is directly below 1st.
 
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