Fritz Maurer
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What it supposed to hold these pins in this joint? They are currently welded in but the welds are failing and the thing is starting to get sloppy. Are they supposed to be pressed in or what? Thanks, Fritz
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Dick W. Pirkey, Jr.
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If you do not get an answer I will go out in the barn tomorrow and look.
Janicholson
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That joint is pretty much destroyed. There are two styles, one (like yours) has a woodruf key and pinch bolt on the front shaft connection. The back yoke is often welded to the rear shaft. The cross is intended to be held in place by C clips on each bearing cap. They are located inside the yoke flanges and fit in grooves in the bearing caps. (pull up a image on Google of the Farmall M steering shaft Universal joint) A Pinned in place joint is also used, it has a roll pin stuck through holes in both yokes. There are options that could retrofit yours to the two roll pin style with some machining and drilling. There is a key and pinch style (one half) for sale on the pages I looked at as above. Jim
Fritz Maurer
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That's an angle I hadn't thought of... I'll get it cleaned up and take a closer look at it.
Janicholson
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All the welds would need to be ground off before you could "adjust" anything. There are (or were) needle bearings in each cap. (look at the images to get the drift of this issue) Jim
Fritz Maurer
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Grinding the welds off was part of the plan, as I wanted to try to preserve this unit if possible. I wasn't sure what was going to hold it together afterward. At the very least the one by the grease fitting must be done because there is so much weld around it that a grease coupler can't be attached to it.
IH used two types of that joint and dropped them for a more common U joint in 1946. Would look for a later M rear steering shaft assembly. Probably this site and other places sell a joint assembly that you install after cutting your shaft at rear of fork. Priced kind of high compared to replacing the U joint in a later steering shaft at some places. Think the last later joint I replaced was 18 to 19 bucks.
timcasbolt
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That welding job was done by someone who has never used a helmet.
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